A robbery from Nordeus: Nordeus admin, please read.

Last night at 9:31pm, I was supposed to have a league game; I sat there and waited, and waited, at 9:29pm, I logged in the game and I saw that the match was already finished and I lost 1:2.

I can only say that this is s stupid and very insane robbery from Nordeus, and it is very clear that this game is random, i.,e., the result was predetermined mins ago before any match starts. But Nordeus, can you do it in a smart way instead of doing this type robberies? If you can do it better then you can cheat us in a better way so people will keep spending money on this game and you can gain your profit; but if you do this stupid thing we will all know that the games are predetermined and who really cares to build teams by spending money?

There is no "kindness" in business in this world but only smart business people who can be successful; if you want to be one of them, please cheat us in a smarter way, OK?

Teda I can understand how bad you are feeling don't worry let it forget as nightmare.I hope admin have any answer for this:eek:

I don't expect any answer from them at all.

Their servers sucks and I have seen similar cases happened to other people.

But please note that this fact tells us a lot. This game is randomized and the results are predetermined. If you watch match and make some adjustments, that might slightly change something but overall it will not count too much.

So please don't be too serious on this game, have fun and enjoy the funny things.

At last, I don't feel bad at all, I have been playing this game for a while and something else ridiculous also happens to me before. Who really cares? I just have fun.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Abhinavsharma

Teda I can understand how bad you are feeling don't worry let it forget as nightmare.I hope admin have any answer for this:eek:

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I think that has happened to me once. It's a small bug that rarely occurs.

If this game was real and predictable then everyone would have won champion league:)

They should check and fix this bug.

But this tells us a lot. I don't know how people think about this fact, especially those ones spend money on this game, this is crazy...and cheating.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

I think that has happened to me once. It's a small bug that rarely occurs.

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I will enjoy this buy if I was opponent of victim lol.

Randomized = unpredictable.

This is why I said that please don't be too serious; no matter if you are on the receiver end of this type things, it doesn't matter because it happened to me and it can also happen to you all.

I saw some threads about similar cases couple of months ago and this happened to me last night. So be ready and don't feel shock if you see it happens to you, and please also enjoy even that happens - enjoy the ridiculousness :-)

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Originally Posted by Abhinavsharma

If this game was real and predictable then everyone would have won champion league:)

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hey Teda, this is rare but can happen, you know it.
but I have the impression that this season it's happening more often.
Here is another case but this time the manager was happy about it
http://forum.topeleven.com/bugs-tech...ive-score.html

It is becoming common now haha

Yeah, this was the thread I mentioned in my previous posts but I could not find it, thank you so much for digging it out! And I believe there should be more in some old threads ...

Anyway, I hope people get me correctly: I don't really care about this loss, this is just a game, very virtual game; but the way Nordeus treat us is not acceptable. People spend time even money on this game but it ends up being seeing something predetermined, crazy? More ridiculously my ST was sent out due to bad behavior, which is stupid because I have been using this ST for seasons and he has very rarely get any cards. This also tells that the match summaries on smartphones are fabricated.

So how do you treat a game like this? Do you want to spend money and play it very seriously? Or you just let it go and enjoy whatever you want to enjoy? What is the purpose of playing this game? Wining trebles? Or just take it easy and keep an very OK team and not spending tokens? Well I know what I should do, and it is your call :-)

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

hey Teda, this is rare but can happen, you know it.
but I have the impression that this season it's happening more often.
Here is another case but this time the manager was happy about it
http://forum.topeleven.com/bugs-tech...ive-score.html

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Happenned to me 2 times in 3 years and 1 day playing with Bayern. Is a fail of the srver, not a robbery of Nordeus, think that the servers are who make the game work, and fails can ocurr because are machines.
Fail can be for a bad sinchro between your PC and the server time, or maybe as happenned to me game started but server was not capable to save the result, so had to do a simulation because the info of the match don't exist in these cases, not saved so, lost.
As players all we know that can happen, 1 time maybe in 15 seasons let's say, but can happen.

Last night at 9:31pm, I was supposed to have a league game; I sat there and waited, and waited, at 9:29pm, I logged in the game and I saw that the match was already finished and I lost 1:2.

Thanks for this, I will try to contact them for an answer. Is true that is a weird bug and annoying. I suppose is more a bug, maybe with the time but can't be 100%.


Cheers!

Something weird happened today to me too. My match was about to end, and I pressed the league results, and my match was already ended despite I was still playing.
So, what happens really? If I'm still in the match and make any substitution or change to the tactics or style, don't they influence the final result?

The answer is NO.

Again I hope people can get my point here. If Nordeus uses simulation approach to design this game, it has to be a dynamic simulation system, instead of a fixed design system without flexibilities.

In another word, simulation is OK but has to take into account the changes during the matches.

These cases tell us that the simulation system is not dynamic or not flexible enough to make this game more realistic; this is something they need to improve, a long way to go.

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Originally Posted by Tyltyl

Something weird happened today to me too. My match was about to end, and I pressed the league results, and my match was already ended despite I was still playing.
So, what happens really? If I'm still in the match and make any substitution or change to the tactics or style, don't they influence the final result?

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Thanks.

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Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin

Last night at 9:31pm, I was supposed to have a league game; I sat there and waited, and waited, at 9:29pm, I logged in the game and I saw that the match was already finished and I lost 1:2.

Thanks for this, I will try to contact them for an answer. Is true that is a weird bug and annoying. I suppose is more a bug, maybe with the time but can't be 100%.


Cheers!

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Teda, I had something like that with one of my teams a while ago so it must those bugs, hope it didn't ruin your season.

i think the time on your phone (or your time) is not same as the server?? cause your time maybe have 2 min to start the game, the server... already start... it has some delay or time not match....like one time my friend support me... i have a big time different...like i am still in 40 min...0:0..... my friend's phone... already in 67 min...2:0.... and well, we went into the game at the same time...

:-) thanks, it will or will not, who knows.

I just hope they can improve, they claim they are making this game more realistic right? As realistic as FIFA mafia? LOL

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Originally Posted by FVS0777

Teda, I had something like that with one of my teams a while ago so it must those bugs, hope it didn't ruin your season.

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I never saw a match with results being disclosed before the match start time. But I saw several matches in which the match result is finalized and disclosed to me within several minutes from match start times. All these matches are right after T11 game daily maintenance. I discussed these and posts some captured screens in some of my old threads in the past.

You raised a good point in terms of the timing that this type bug always happens: after daily maintenance.

Yes, in my time zone, the daily maintenance happens at 9pm; this match was supposed to start at 9:31pm; and when I logged in at 9:29pm, I saw everything of this match: the result, and the comments. I was shocked and was sitting there for the next minutes ... I could not understand what the hell happened and then I recalled I saw some old threads talked about similar things, then I shaked my head and then went to bed :-)

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Originally Posted by cookizzz

I never saw a match with results being disclosed before the match start time. But I saw several matches in which the match result is finalized and disclosed to me within several minutes from match start times. All these matches are right after T11 game daily maintenance. I discussed these and posts some captured screens in some of my old threads in the past.

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Originally Posted by Teda

Last night at 9:31pm, I was supposed to have a league game; I sat there and waited, and waited, at 9:29pm, I logged in the game and I saw that the match was already finished and I lost 1:2.

I can only say that this is s stupid and very insane robbery from Nordeus, and it is very clear that this game is random, i.,e., the result was predetermined mins ago before any match starts. But Nordeus, can you do it in a smart way instead of doing this type robberies? If you can do it better then you can cheat us in a better way so people will keep spending money on this game and you can gain your profit; but if you do this stupid thing we will all know that the games are predetermined and who really cares to build teams by spending money?

There is no "kindness" in business in this world but only smart business people who can be successful; if you want to be one of them, please cheat us in a smarter way, OK?

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I was wondering what happened here. I was online getting ready to support, then game was over before it began...

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Originally Posted by Teda

Last night at 9:31pm, I was supposed to have a league game; I sat there and waited, and waited, at 9:29pm, I logged in the game and I saw that the match was already finished and I lost 1:2.

I can only say that this is s stupid and very insane robbery from Nordeus, and it is very clear that this game is random, i.,e., the result was predetermined mins ago before any match starts. But Nordeus, can you do it in a smart way instead of doing this type robberies? If you can do it better then you can cheat us in a better way so people will keep spending money on this game and you can gain your profit; but if you do this stupid thing we will all know that the games are predetermined and who really cares to build teams by spending money?

There is no "kindness" in business in this world but only smart business people who can be successful; if you want to be one of them, please cheat us in a smarter way, OK?

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The same thing happened to me yesterday. I entered the match 6 minutes late but it had finished :confused: luckily I won 7-0.... I was pissed off tho that I couldn't attend it, not to say the anger if I lost in an already crazy league....

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Originally Posted by Teda

You raised a good point in terms of the timing that this type bug always happens: after daily maintenance.

Yes, in my time zone, the daily maintenance happens at 9pm; this match was supposed to start at 9:31pm; and when I logged in at 9:29pm, I saw everything of this match: the result, and the comments. I was shocked and was sitting there for the next minutes ... I could not understand what the hell happened and then I recalled I saw some old threads talked about similar things, then I shaked my head and then went to bed :-)

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In my time zone, as I observed, recently the earliest possible match time is 11:30 a.m.. Those simulated matches were held at around 11:30 to 11:45. So our cases are likely the same. I have encountered this for at least three times. I absolutely have no chance to watch these matches.

I tried to report this to Nordeus with screen captures. I thought it was clear that matches were simulated at or before match time. But Nordeus asked for information like browser version, etc. These information were irrelevant. I was disappointed, gave up and did not follow.

I think the two best things about this game is to enjoy playing it and to understand how it works.
This is a simple game, which must run in some thousands devices (pc,tablet,smartphones) at the same time, from different servers and connections.
So, of course it's not flawless. But it's important to recognize the weak points of it and just live with it.
I think it's impossible for the company to watch and react in a different way to players who buy/spending (or not) tokens/sources.
The roll dice has a big part in the game. People who buy token, complaining for their results, people who don't buy token, the same.
My experience, playing with my main team in different periods (buying, farming, not spending), as with my other teams, with different accounts
is that anything can happen to any team.
I 'm just trying to find the "stream" and swim with the flow. Sometimes, I get tired or pissed-off and I take a break (tanking/staying or taking a club from the beginning - from my other accounts).
After all, it's only a game (and at the moment, it's the one which have the most complete pack).

* I posted this in another thread which has a similar subject