Joke?

[sabankuru]

close, i hate it...

[Gafaton]

yes, this thread is a joke.

[Morgan O'Bree]

welcome to top 11, le boy.

[July Fourth]

yes, this thread is a joke.

Agree... 3-5-2 flat counters the 4-5-1 V

[sabankuru]

3-5-2

3-5-2 has a few weaknesses, mainly; it's lack of punch and weak wing defence. 5 midfielders mean a solid ball control, don't expect to dominate the match, but since there aren't any attacking midfielders, you can just as easily block their advance.

While there are many ways to defeat 3-5-2, I'll explain 2 formations that will allow you to better understand the mechanics of how this can be done.

4-5-1 V-style (motivated)
An awesomely versatile formation that combined with a few arrows can be either attacking or defensive. In this case, you want to force an attack through the wings, so...
------------ST---------------
AML---------------------AMR
---------MC-------MC---------
-------------DMC (UP)---------
DL (UP)----DC--DC----DR (UP

Motivated DL and DR's block movement from the opponents ML and MR's while also feeding passes to your AML and AMR. The 2 MC and motivated DMC block any centre movement.
On the attack your formation will effectively be:

-----------ST------------
AML-----------------AMR
------MC--MC--MC-----
DML----------------DMR
----------DC--DC--------

That gives you 5 midfielders to block the opponent's 5, and you have 2 attacking midfielders which have open access since he doesn't have wing backs or fullbacks. On the defense, your formation will return to the basic 4-5-1 and still give you a solid coverage.

Mentality: Usually normal, but I recommend going defensive with hard tackling if the opponent's team is better, and attacking if the opposite.
Force counter: Yes
Passing: mixed, through both flanks
Pressing: own half
Zonal marking

[July Fourth]

3-5-2

3-5-2 has a few weaknesses, mainly; it's lack of punch and weak wing defence. 5 midfielders mean a solid ball control, don't expect to dominate the match, but since there aren't any attacking midfielders, you can just as easily block their advance.

While there are many ways to defeat 3-5-2, I'll explain 2 formations that will allow you to better understand the mechanics of how this can be done.

4-5-1 V-style (motivated)
An awesomely versatile formation that combined with a few arrows can be either attacking or defensive. In this case, you want to force an attack through the wings, so...
------------ST---------------
AML---------------------AMR
---------MC-------MC---------
-------------DMC (UP)---------
DL (UP)----DC--DC----DR (UP

Motivated DL and DR's block movement from the opponents ML and MR's while also feeding passes to your AML and AMR. The 2 MC and motivated DMC block any centre movement.
On the attack your formation will effectively be:

-----------ST------------
AML-----------------AMR
------MC--MC--MC-----
DML----------------DMR
----------DC--DC--------

That gives you 5 midfielders to block the opponent's 5, and you have 2 attacking midfielders which have open access since he doesn't have wing backs or fullbacks. On the defense, your formation will return to the basic 4-5-1 and still give you a solid coverage.

Mentality: Usually normal, but I recommend going defensive with hard tackling if the opponent's team is better, and attacking if the opposite.
Force counter: Yes
Passing: mixed, through both flanks
Pressing: own half
Zonal marking

That topic is out of date (copy and paste from old forum) plus many tweaks have been to the game engine, the butterfly was listed as a counter to the 4-2-2-2 hexagon but thats no longer the case anymore either. It seems AML/AMR wingers are no longer effective when facing teams of a flat midfield.

[herdo]

are you serioUsly trying to tell july how to play top 11

LOL!

[sabankuru]

That topic is out of date (copy and paste from old forum) plus many tweaks have been to the game engine, the butterfly was listed as a counter to the 4-2-2-2 hexagon but thats no longer the case anymore either. It seems AML/AMR wingers are no longer effective when facing teams of a flat midfield.

thx 4 helping, nice to know....

[July Fourth]

Even 4-2-2-2 used to be a formation listed that beats 4-4-2 classic but thats not the case either, With game engine tweaks it seems like countering isn't as effective as it used to be full stop.