Season 87- Are you ready?

[Awe Imoleayo Peter]

I have been a bit tactically blocked for the past 3days and have almost lost everything this season... Though it won't have been easy if I was on my A game....


I have decided to use 4 5 1v next season as default... Let's see how it goes.

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[LeManiaque]

Just had our worst game ever, it was "catastrophic failure".

- Cup Quarter Finals, 105% 4141me vs 111% 442 him, 3:1 loss first leg.
- 0:5 home loss, first time we've ever allowed even 4...
-Achievements: Bad Day, Bad Habit, Bully... all in 1 game.
-Red card 12', injury 60'
- Ratings... none of the team rated even 7.0... my GK, who was on a long string of 8s played for a 4.5. Reliable veteran ST a 5.8.

Counter attacks, short, hard tackle... Man marking, arrows? it's a good match for me to analyze further. Glad it's over!

[Gabez Teh]

Just had our worst game ever, it was "catastrophic failure".

- Cup Quarter Finals, 105% 4141me vs 111% 442 him, 3:1 loss first leg.
- 0:5 home loss, first time we've ever allowed even 4...
-Achievements: Bad Day, Bad Habit, Bully... all in 1 game.
-Red card 12', injury 60'
- Ratings... none of the team rated even 7.0... my GK, who was on a long string of 8s played for a 4.5. Reliable veteran ST a 5.8.

Counter attacks, short, hard tackle... Man marking, arrows? it's a good match for me to analyze further. Glad it's over!

Bad habit: got it long time ago (before came back) @ cup final of course

And i would like to ask you why do you playing 4141 against 442? 3-4-1-2 or 4-5-1v prolly would (have) be(en) effective ??? hmmm

edit: yaaay this is my 500th post, wohoo

[HoofDaddy]

You man marked vs 442? with hard tackling against a superior Q team? Counter attacks on in a home leg? deserved loss imo, glad you learned something. We are all guilty of glaring tactical errors at times. I think the away leg shook your convictions and influenced your bad decisions.

[LeManiaque]

Deserved the loss? Can't tell if sarcastic...

In any case, no. Rather, I suspect the opponent was using counters, hard tackling, some up arrows, and possibly man marking.

I'm not sure I consider hard tackling a higher Q team, or forcing counters at home risky tactics. Difference in tactics is a great aspect of the game. Any evidence to share?

Forgot to mention above, prior to the match we invested some 75-100 packs (not with hopes of winning, the first leg was pretty clear). Add powertraining to the list of possible factors.

[HoofDaddy]

Most of my evidence is anecdotal. Any empirical evidence wasn't archived. I meant you set up your team to fail with those orders, not that you personally deserved to lose. Whenever i use counter attacks at home in cup/cl ties I concede early while attending. I don't understand why you would want to throw away your home possession advantage by forcing counters. If anything, if you are attending a home leg and the other manager is absent you should switch to long passing as the increased shooting and possession discrepancy is sure to lead to more goals unless he is playing a deep defensive formation. Some members of my association wonder why they don't score goals when they use short passing in defensive formations almost exclusively. You were down 3:1 and needed goals and you played counters with short passing in a 4141? all he has to do is high press and your defenders will never advance the ball past midfield. The powertraining may have been a factor as well.

[LeManiaque]

Still we misunderstand, those weren't my tactics. Being down a DMC and not having a10-man plan to secure the goals is why I lost. Things fell apart after the DR injury.

Getting off topic, but I've been tracking force counter impact on possession, and it seems to range between 5 and 10% loss when forcing counters for 90, though I suspect there are other effects. Have to do a better job with stats someday...

[HoofDaddy]

Still we misunderstand, those weren't my tactics. Being down a DMC and not having a10-man plan to secure the goals is why I lost. Things fell apart after the DR injury.

Getting off topic, but I've been tracking force counter impact on possession, and it seems to range between 5 and 10% loss when forcing counters for 90, though I suspect there are other effects. Have to do a better job with stats someday...

Oh i must have misinterpreted, thought the tactics you described were yours and not your opponents.

[pnr8555]

Do you think long-term players/token buyers lost interest from the game because they're too good? Or because they're too good and not getting the result, or maybe winning too much for spending makes it boring?

[LeManiaque]

Do you think long-term players/token buyers lost interest from the game because they're too good? Or because they're too good and not getting the result, or maybe winning too much for spending makes it boring?

Based on the sentiments here, is easy to think managers spend tokens or $ and expect to win everything. Using those as a replacement for strategy, thought, planning. Those people might be easily discouraged when things don't work out, move to the next method of demonstrating dominance.

But clearly, this simple game has enough to keep many regulars for years and years. We also have heard from @Moi that some players have spent unknown thousands of dollars on their teams....