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Talking about the troll result?
I have a good FK specialist and also a CK specialist...nice :) ( 6 free kicks and 0%... )
My PK specialist missed penalty... :D Bad day for SA players? :O
And also a 6* GK, who had previous games rated 9-9-8...
And in the end, hes GK was rated 6.7 and mine was 5.7, also MOM was my ARM with 9.7 rating -.-
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had a simular result but did lose opponent gk had a wonderful day and my teams rating dropped very low only my aml/amr and st performed well
The same with me also slowly it becomes ridiculous...
This just enhances my suspicion that trolling has grown this season.
Maybe my idea...
Always,at the beginning of a new season and especially after an update,there are a lot more troll results than usually
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another one 4 shots 3 goals teams same Quality looking at a friends match
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There is no more balance in the matches
totaly broken
lost my match today with 15 % bonus on each sector shots(attackbonus 24% in match) on target 8-8 saves 3-4 playing at homematch lost 2-4
had possesion of 55% fisrt match away was 1-1 and we played exact the same formations
I dont complain to lose but it must be fair
this way even if your one the lucky side its no fun
The match is decided before it begins
i dont like if my defenders runs from the ball to give opponent free chance
Comments from ass-trainer we didnt have our day (its just broken Nordeus)
My 4 games since the update,
2 lose - both troll results
1 win - normal
1 draw - troll result for opponent.
Scoreline doesnt conform with statistics and player rating anymore.
Talk about Nordeous league fixing to make game competitve? I suspect are they now match fixing as well?
Is okay if they want to make the game more competitive by grouping same calibre teams to make people spend more tokens, but it must be within realm of logic and science (math/probability). We cant have goals plucked out of nowhere like magic. Even though football is football, ask wenger, mourinho, guardiola none know any better than each other, but this is a game. A simpler game than Football Manager PC. We dont accept things like ass man words ' this isnt our day'.
Team quality has no big influence anymore. It's becoming normal, that 20% lower team can win and it's not a surprise...
And what I have noticed is that when you change formation turning live game ( in troll game ) it will only make it more worse...
Now I even don't know how big factor is that you should play 4-1-2-1-2 against 4-4-2 etc...In this season it means nothing...
With every new game, no matter how good your team is and how bad the opponent team is, it's 50/50...
In my league there are many games with weird results...
I made a post yesterday at "Season 89":
Cupgame vs 40% weaker team - ended 2:2. we are black... my keeper made no save.
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It's the same keeper, who performed last season like a god. Here an example
(we are white - that was vs an evenly opponent)
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The same keeper conceeded against a much stronger tokenbuyer in 6 games only 3 goals...
I had a few season ago a really good keeper (16 clean sheets in a row, 19 incl. FA) , but after an update... he wasn't the same. If this update killed my keeper again...:mad::mad: I'm really tired of looking for a good keeper every two seasons. I'm also really tired of such troll results. It's hard enough to win CL +1 level, it's hard enough to win cup up to +5 level higher, it's hard enough to win vs good manager... it doesn't need this annoying trolls.
Btw. here the results of this FA-weekend against stronger, managed opponents (first: 7%, second: 1%)... a bit foolish compared to the 2:2 against 40% weaker team...
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I'm more afraid of those games now, where opponent is 20%-30% lower...than the ones vs equal team...( same quality as my team ) :)
About the first post result. OUCH!! That is pretty sour.
Maybe it has something to do with attending the match? At the end of the previous season I watched the games with much lower % teams and I lost 2, draw 2 and won only 1.
So I didn't wanted to waste my team watching the games anymore and to my surprise...I won the next 5-6 games against lower quality teams ( by 5-0, 7-1 etc ) and also against much stronger teams. ( Best win was 2-0 against 121% team, I was 100% )...
Is it only me or there could be different results ( different outcome ) when watching game live in new version or with old version...Is this to do something with many users are using the old version to watch games, despite the bonuses which you can use turning a match?
I want to see if the result is different with old and new version by watching game live in old version. Won 1-st leg 3-1 and now I'll see what will the result be in the second leg. ( Also a bonus is that I didn't attended in the first leg...so no supporters where there, but I will be live in second leg now. )
* Players are the same for both.
* Tactics are same.
* He is not very active manager... :D
EDIT: Result: 1-0 victory...
So finally...I looked my this season results and if I don't attend , my results are way better. So now on...no live games for me :)
Despite most of my games I win them easy I've lost twice against a team that's like 3 stars under mine I would like to complain but I did it so many times and I do believe some things never changed.
It's NOT troll at all :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nash123
let see the stats, it's mean
65% possesion vs 35 : hard attack
23 tackles vs 19 tackles : whole pitch
93% passes completed : shot pass
....
So ball is almost in the opponent's side, imagine 22 players in footsal squad, you hit shot your team, too hurry and Overcrowed.
IMO your tactic isn't good, you can change normal mentality / own pitch and long pass, like waiting opponent rise up for more space
I really like face up a stronger opponent. If you meet me, i'll make U cry :p
Sorry for my bad english
Uh... yes... that's what I want to see... because NOTHING of your thoughts are right: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
I started defensive and counter, low press, hard tackling, mixed passing, because he use an offensive formation.
I changed at ~35 to normal, counter still on, normal tackling because of yellow card and 3 FK.
At 55min, turned counter off, switched to long balls and stayed with that tactics to end, because we scored 1.time at 64min, so this seemed to work.
Our stats look very alike...???Quote:
Originally Posted by nash123
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This season I have enormous number of bookings...
I have never had so many yellow and red cards in 14 seasons as I have this season...
Two last matches in a row - straight red card with a penalty as a consequence, todays match yellow card and again a penalty...frustrating enough...;/
I'm playing normal tackling, not hard.
Anyone with the same experience ?
I have also normal tackling and many yellows, in some point I used easy, but no affect at all...
I am telling you, something has been changed and now I can really say, that we now have TOP Eleven 2017!
AM has a new troll message? :rolleyes:
(never saw this before)
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I saw my stats many timesQuote:
Originally Posted by nash123
93-95% means shots pass
83-89% means mix pass
<79% means long pass
You would show the tactics
Anyway my guys, these are so many reason: away match, referee, spririt, condition, form, unlucky....
Do you make change Captain, FKick, CKick,... I'm always have problems and loose when i make it :(
Why you are stronger 40% then you must play defend? You lost chance :)
I first saw this waaaay back in April last year:Quote:
Originally Posted by nash123
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post399872
I'm not sure but i saw the same in last season. its footballQuote:
Originally Posted by nash123
I think, there is the reason... I saw a few times my stats with short passes around 80%, and long passes +90%. It seems, it depends on your team, your opponent and his tactic - maybe, if you play short pass and get low %, it means, opponent uses high pressure.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
Only one reason: my team can't play (hard) attacking. Usually they play much better, if playing defensive or normal. I made a small test at season 11: I made at first week 20 friendlies against a friend. He tried to have same moral/condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
If I play (hard) attacking, my SoT were only around 4-6, results were close wins like 2:1 or draws. If I played (hard) defending, no matter if counter is on, my team made more than 10 SoT, wins usually were +3 goals difference, only one draw. His team made a furious start: he took a 2:0 lead after 12min, ended 4:4.
Two seasons ago (season 12), I made another small experiment:
First half of the league, I used only attacking. Result: first game lost because of a single counter at 88' (we played much better, it was around 12:2 SoT). We scored "only" 58 goals.
Second half of the league, I used only defensive (counter on/off), we scored 82 goals.
Last season, I played attacking vs 14.place, ~55% weaker, illegal formation... and we conceeded 3 goals... (ended 8:3).
Last, but not least: we played at season 11 against him at CL, he used same formation. We beat him 5:0. The only difference: he was only ~10% weaker.
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Today I play a match. I stronger than him (10%) and with full 15% bonus. he isn't attendant
You can see something same.
But after i only change whole pitch to own pitch , I have 3 goals very easy.
This is nothing, today I played against a 49% weaker team and hardly could draw. Mine was 136%, team of the my opponent was 87%. Assistant manager again gone mad after the match by commenting that "We simply could not score one more goal" :D, and my formation was counter of his formation. Nothing more to say :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
I would like to say: It's not troll at all :D Everything can explain. In match, we can change the best for better result if we did understand. Nordeus gives many element and calculation its for a result. I dont thing something like troll or random...etc :D
I wrote about it in other threads friend, when I was playing 2016 these results were not happening much, especially when the qualities are drastically different as I have posted above. It is really rare at the moment also, 2 and 3 seasons ago everything in a match was just random for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
https://forum.topeleven.com/formatio...2n-3w-1-a.html
Second page, second post of nikolgiorgos, says that the most important factor is luck.
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If you have really have the knowledge you say, make a post about that. Make a post, how to read a game, how to change useful tactics/formation,...Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
I really want to learn, how I get no trolls anymore...
Ok mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by nash123
If i have a triple in this season with this team, I will share anything i know & feeling.
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This is wrong. While you can change the probability that your team will get a better result, there is always an element of randomness to the game. They've even come out and said that they employ Random Number Generators (RNGs) so it's not like I'm making this up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
Okay, but you're sure that how many percent of random in this game? I think it so so little.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcohen42
One season i usually lost some 3-4 matchs but by other reason, not random :)
No, it's not little. It's not as big as in real football, but the random factor here is weighty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houzz
Do you play Asso games? If yes, you should know. You may change nothing after a big victory against equal opponent (who may not even attended) and stunningly lose the next game with terrible ratings. Happens all the time.
