irrationality in this game will kill me

i played champions league semi final on 27 march and i won 2-0 away even though i did not train my team.

today with the same team i played 2nd leg, i trained the team, attend the match, same formation for both teams in the first leg, my team is stronger than him (99% vs 98%) and the opponent did not attend the match then out of sudden i lost 3-0 at home.

can you tell me why? im ok surprises can happen in football but give me the logic you work on please, so i can sleep well and accept it was my fault not a damn malfunctioning code you have.


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Well, what can I say for my experience, the quality is so close and the match scenario was so against you. Think that the simulation is one if you attend and another if you do not, attending the game always will try to make you move something, will try to make you manage and find solutions to solve the scenario and obtain the victory.

If you can provide more info' about formations and stats maybe other forumers can tha had similar experiencs can bring some light to you.
Sorry dude, next time will be the successful ;)

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Originally Posted by mmatarneh87

i played champions league semi final on 27 march and i won 2-0 away even though i did not train my team.

today with the same team i played 2nd leg, i trained the team, attend the match, same formation for both teams in the first leg, my team is stronger than him (99% vs 98%) and the opponent did not attend the match then out of sudden i lost 3-0 at home.

can you tell me why? im ok surprises can happen in football but give me the logic you work on please, so i can sleep well and accept it was my fault not a damn malfunctioning code you have.


Thank you!

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I feel you man.I have noticed this kind of thing happening to me also, when I attend matches then my team doesn't do well even against weak opponents but when i don't bamm 3-0 or 4-1 is normal for my team these days.In league matches I have lost to teams having 60% while I'm at 105%(when i attend matches). But when i don't attend my team plays excellent. Because of this bug/whatever I'm 3rd. in my league right now.
In one hour I have my 2nd leg of CL and, I'm utterly confused whether to attend the match or not!

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Thanks man.
That is giving me some relief im not the only cursed manager 😀😀

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You cannot be sure that your opponent have the same tactics as previous match. Maybe he change something.
One more thing, the different when the match is at home or away is possession bonus (also manager present), that can ruin your plan. The team with high possession may not usually counter attack (in my own experience).

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Originally Posted by 112000

You cannot be sure that your opponent have the same tactics as previous match. Maybe he change something.
One more thing, the different when the match is at home or away is possession bonus (also manager present), that can ruin your plan. The team with high possession may not usually counter attack (in my own experience).

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To make it clear.
The teams i'm talking about are basically dead accounts, their managers never play or never attend matches and yes we all know about home/away matches and how they can impact the outcome of the game and TBH I've played this game long enough to know when something is not working as it used to... like you may have noticed that DEVS have silently fixed the transfer market issue when earlier we were having only four 5* players to choose but that issue is fixed and sooner or later they will fix this one too... the only thing that matter is not losing your faith in them (views are personal, no insult intended).

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Originally Posted by mmatarneh87

Thanks man.
That is giving me some relief im not the only cursed manager 😀😀

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Believe me, your are not the only one, so far.

Incl. FA-member and my own account, I see detailed (and talk with) 11 very acitve manager. This season were very very strange results... mostly, if the AI plays against human.

f.e. take a look at my cousins game and the best of all...

For me the most epic thing happening right now in this game is when my striker is one-on-one with the GK then all of a sudden he will pass the ball to wingers/backwards... at that moment i can only snatch my hair and curse him...😂

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Originally Posted by achiie

For me the most epic thing happening right now in this game is when my striker is one-on-one with the GK then all of a sudden he will pass the ball to wingers/backwards... at that moment i can only snatch my hair and curse him...😂

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Don't pay so much attention to the simulation.

6-1 for Barça vs Psg , that's why ,top eleven is keeping it real with those comebacks, once i lost 3-1 in cl semi final,then i won 4-0 so ...

My 3 AC teams, I never attend their games, one is lvl 7 won 5 league 2 cups, 2 are lvl 5, one of those lvl 5 won all leagues, 1 CL, 2 cups and other one so so always between 1-4. All I do 10% bonus and some time change the formation but the one never win league, I never changed formation, always 3-1-4-2, this season 3rd in league, playing final CL, lost cup on semi.

My main team I attend every single game unless a RL issue, doing good but not excellent.

Point is do we really need to attend the match then :P

@ibangali wow! right do we really need to watch? recently notice not watching give better result then watching. this season i lost my cup final against manager not watching dispite having better quality then oppo. same in my cl league semi playing slightly higher +1level team lost on goal aggregate manager not watching.
I like watching as you somehow can change the outcome by changing your formation and tactic bt when i lose i wonder does it really matter.

I say its that the game wants to provide equal opportunity to everyone, active or inactive, watch games or doesnt, train or doesnt, spent tokens or doesn't. The gulf of difference seem have been adjusted to very close. "Challenging" is their word. "Trolling" is our word.

In my opinion, at the moment it's better, to leave the team alone. There are so many strange results this season... my cousin beat at CL-semi a 15% stronger team, which beat him last season 9:3 on aggregate... this season, my cousin won 9:2 on aggregate, without watching both games (screen at this thread)

But... he lost his cupfinal vs a 17% weaker team, opponent didn't watch.

The most crazy thing is... he won with complete illegal formation (80/20 possession) against 5. place. (screen)


I'm out of the CL against a 25% weaker team, who not attend... 3:3 and 2:1, but 17:5 SoT to me on target on aggregate - that means, a 25% weaker opponent, who didn't watch had a 100% efficieny - against a keeper, who conceeded a CL vs evenly teams (managed, for sure) nothing?
I destroyed the same guy at league 5:0 and 11:0 - both game, he watched.

A friend took the lead at league, 7 point ahead after 10 games, last 3 games where vs. last places - he lost all, stats were to him. So he lost 1.place, had few hard games against the top of the table. He was so annoyed by the losses, he gave a **** on the games -> he won all games til now. He trolled 1., 2. and 5.place with a 100% effiency.
While he watched the games, it was only 15-max. 50%...


This are only a handful examples, I've a view of 11 accounts, which I talk a lot to the owner.
There's something going on... and it's frustrating like hell.

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"Challenging" is their word. "Trolling" is our word.

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Challenge is, if you have a chance to win - and that's not possible, if the AI counters you instantly.

I like the challenge, BUT I want to challenge against human player, otherwise I go playing FIFA against world class A.I.
We are a 6-7* FA, so I face every weekend active managers. That's challenging, because he can make a mistake, or find a weakness in your team... the game can turned by a desicion of a human... maybe it's only a sub. Against the AI... it's impossible, because this is the only "thing" who knows, how the engine/the game works. And it's too strong at the moment.

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Originally Posted by woopypooky

I say its that the game wants to provide equal opportunity to everyone, active or inactive, watch games or doesnt, train or doesnt, spent tokens or doesn't. The gulf of difference seem have been adjusted to very close. "Challenging" is their word. "Trolling" is our word.

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If that is the case then its time to take a break and come back when they fix it. play only asso Fa.

Agree in all points.

Not watching is much better than attending every game. Not buying tokens much better than buying.
I lost many games against opponets who are 20% less even I've used good counter formation.

If you're token buyer, everytime when there's that special deal to buy player for tokens only, I notice strange results. Looks like game wants me to spend more and more tokens since I lost.

In terms of irrationality this has been the ultimate troll season, and I am finishing it with a unique (in my experience) loser's treble. 2nd in the league with half of my losses that cost me the title coming from the unwatched teams inferior in quality. Cup final - lose by a single goal against the guy whom I beat with an aggregate 7:2 in the league. Today's CL final - lost on penalties with the oppo manager not present. Tinkering with the squad and the tactics during the game makes things worse: you substitute an underperforming player, the sub in his position ends up with an even lower rating.
Gonna rename my club "Always the bridesmaid". :p