gizzmo, dont get me wrong, but Tyltyl is right in everything he says.......it doesnt matter....Tyltyl is an experienced manager, look at hes history trophys.....and this is hapenning all over across the game to everyone....is more then clear that something had chnaged in game mechanic......im not saying that is intentional or acidental but something is very wierd with all this kind of results.....i didnt get it if hes oponente LDU Nantes was on at time of the game but i bet he wasnt....as he wasnt on first leg i bet...