Come ON Nord, fix your bug please

Win a match 0-6, paying tons of win bonus, before the match feed moral boost and need 13 moral boost again for next match, it can be right. Please Nord fix your bugs, we are really frustrated and tired with your tons and tons of game bugs. I'm not worried about my asso match but right after the asso match I have CL. If I remember right, usually if we lost a match then we need 13 or more moral, but I win my last match and given full win bonus, feed moral before the match :( :mad:

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It's not a bug. It's a click bait.

that is always the case. i dont understand this morale thing. Do morale really have any effect to the game?

This isn't a bug @ibangali, the home screen will always suggest that you top off your players both in condition and moral. But you as the manager of your club you should check the other menus, like the Squad and Physio Center to see what these two metrics show in better detail.
How much condition or moral is good for your players you will have to decide on your own through experience with the game. I personally don't top off my players' moral unless I have to use two moral boosters to do so. When it comes to condition, I just try to keep the guys at around 80% before every match and only top 'em off to 100% when the next match is very important - I wouldn't want to take any chances.

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Originally Posted by HairDryer

that is always the case. i dont understand this morale thing. Do morale really have any effect to the game?

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I agree, you go to a match with full morale and despite winning some players morale will still drop. The worst is when you lose not only the players morale will drop (rightfully so) but the game takes 1 or 2 packs from you. Morale is the only thing you can't get from any buildings.

Guys do you really have issues with having enough blues?

The same thing it happens with the morale of my first 11 players, it is full before the game, and even if I win the match I lower the morale to a few players. My opinion is that morale does not matter in this game.
Why?

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

This isn't a bug @ibangali, the home screen will always suggest that you top off your players both in condition and moral. But you as the manager of your club you should check the other menus, like the Squad and Physio Center to see what these two metrics show in better detail.
How much condition or moral is good for your players you will have to decide on your own through experience with the game. I personally don't top off my players' moral unless I have to use two moral boosters to do so. When it comes to condition, I just try to keep the guys at around 80% before every match and only top 'em off to 100% when the next match is very important - I wouldn't want to take any chances.

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So far I remember it used to be not like that, moral had effect in the game before. Also if you send your team with full moral and full win bonus, if your team win then you might need 2/3 blue to gain full team moral for next match. But last couple of season it doesn't work. Moral have following 5 conditions: very poor, poor, good, very good and superb. I usually send my player "very good" moral condition but if I have a important match then I send them with "superb" moral. Why I'm saying it's bug because end of the match game engine not holding or controlling or calculating players moral any more based on win bonus, match preparation, match outcomes etc.

I know what home screen does but if you go through individual player of your t11 on Squad and Physio Center and count all then it'll give you same total number whatever home screen suggested.

My point was, you send your team with "superb" moral, given max win bonus and win the match with 6 goal (0:6) and end of the match showing your team need another 13 blue to boost up players moral, no way, it must be bug.

I hope you remember this threat: https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...lue-green.html

Here is one of my club, never use any blue, only win bonus activated top of the league rank, playing knockout CL, semi final cup. even some time player moral were poor I didn't use any blue. I hope you got the picture what I'm pointing. Either total moral thing doesn't have any sense or your game engine not working correctly anymore.

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Thanks

Ibangali

You waste your time. It's like Apple - it's not a bug, it's a feature... or you hold your phone wrong. ;)

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Originally Posted by Kto

Guys do you really have issues with having enough blues?

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I do. I have a ton of green and red packs. I collected a lot when I had more than 20 videos each day. By combining this with training and condition efficiency I managed to store a lot. Morale packs on the other hand I use all the time. I want to make sure my team has optimal preparation before the match.

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Ibangali

You waste your time. It's like Apple - it's not a bug, it's a feature... or you hold your phone wrong. ;)

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I hope you not send your players with "poor" or "good" moral condition.

I know this moral also cosmetic or just visual but still we use blue to make sure our team has optimal preparation.

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My point was, you send your team with "superb" moral, given max win bonus and win the match with 6 goal (0:6) and end of the match showing your team need another 13 blue to boost up players moral, no way, it must be bug.

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

This isn't a bug @ibangali, the home screen will always suggest that you top off your players both in condition and moral. But you as the manager of your club you should check the other menus, like the Squad and Physio Center to see what these two metrics show in better detail.
How much condition or moral is good for your players you will have to decide on your own through experience with the game.

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So this bar is completely useless (as I expected)?
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Then why even implement it? What better details should we check in our physio center? There is nothing more than what it's actually visible, and you know it. That bar only tells the preparation level based on an average of condition and morale, more details are inexistent.
Are you implying that there's a hidden optimal condition value for each team? Then, why using the aforementioned generic bar for everyone? Are you saying that my optimal condition could be around 30% or 70% and we have to take risks to discover it? Then, what's the point to have a condition percentage in the first place?

Why don't you just implement a magical chemistry in the team that when you find the right formation and right positioning of the player the team just works? THAT would be a bit more realistic and transparent.

Now, here I bring today's game report, look the screenshot before the match (moral condition) then look the screenshot right after the match (moral condition), also on same screenshot you can see "game income: -82.3K"; I give max win bonus, so my players moral stay high or normal; in this way I don't have to use lots of blue. I'm not doing this thing only this season, I'm doing this since I start to play this game (June 2016). It used to be work but last couple of season it doesn't work, even it's worse now.

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My point was, you send your team with "superb" moral, given max win bonus and win the match with 6 goal (0:6) and end of the match showing your team need another 13 blue to boost up players moral, no way, it must be bug.

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although this time 8:0

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Guys do you really have issues with having enough blues?

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I always make sure that all my players have at least light green morale arrows before each match, and can usually top up those that aren't to that condition with a free video. Rarely do I have to boost with two packs, usually it's because I haven't used that player in a while...

Last season I wrote this thread and sorry, I pull the threat to bring Nord attention again or is it only me facing this problem.

Today I had last CL group match, it important because if I win then I'll lead the group rank. Anyway, I use moral to boost up my players. all players moral were superb (including 2 subs), max win bonus then play the match, win 0-4 (away). Now end of the match my when I go to the 'squad' page to prepare my team for next match of the day, it shows I need to feed 7/8 moral boost again for my 7 players. I don't understand this part. Used to be, if we win the match then we might need 3/4 blue, may be less but if we lost then we need 8-17.

This days we can't farm 10 videos then how we can feed tons of moral :(

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The moral decreasing even after you win is stupid. There is no reasoning behind this, maybe only if you sub out someone and he is unhappy but not everyone. If you give players full morale before a match you have the next day, they will still decrease you should only do it in the same day as your match.

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If you give players full morale before a match you have the next day, they will still decrease you should only do it in the same day as your match.

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I know that :)
that's why I waited until server restart at 9:30 pm EST (GMT-5) and my game was at 11:53 pm EST; soon the server restarted I received daily gift then train my subs for 10% bonus, after that I feed moral boosters (whoever needed to gain 'superb'), I don't even train my top 11, I leave their condition 99% for the match.

I agree with you, moral should not decrease after you win the match, not only that, paying full win bonus, which is tons of money.

What was the player ratings for that match? Did the players with low rating lose morale, even though you won the match?

Talisman you spot on.
Surely a player lose morale if he underperfoms and surely this is not a bug.
Let's say i have a 7star player who plays costantly about 9 and in a specific match
performes lets say 7 this player will lose morale for sure even if i win by 10 goals.

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What was the player ratings for that match? Did the players with low rating lose morale, even though you won the match?

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well, posting another game report with rating, what you think about that now: you can see AML & AMR rating 10 and they need moral boost to get back 'superb' posting :(
any normal game my players go to play with 'Very good' (light green) moral but important game I play with 'superb' (dark green) moral. after win a match with high win bonus, do you really think its normal to cost another 13 blue to get back players moral

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