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I really don't mind giving tokens in offer to GM..... however, because of the current system, if I give 7 tokens to a GM it means something like 10 initial +7 +7....24 tokens total. That is ridiculous. I would rather these 24 tokens go to the GM rather than 17 disapear in the void of nordeous
Yes negotiations need changes and they have to be a better experience for both the buyer and the seller. I have always had an open mind in the fact that this is a game in which the company makes money and I support that. Yet this doesn't justify that type of blatant ripoff.
I think there should be a way to put our player in the negotiation market ourselves and set his price once he reaches 99%.79% etc, this way maybe we gonna stop the 0 token offers also.
Nordeus will not change negotiations as it will reduce their profits..as simple as that
Sorry but that's a bit of shallow comment.
Nordeus'interest is indeed to maximise the number of tokens spent, while keeping users (way beyond the minority of users of the forums) satisfied.
Maybe their focus was on the auction market first - and I tend to think their reached their objectives.
They have all the data about negotiation, as well as data scientists to analyse it.
If there is a way to increase the total number of tokens spent on negotiations while keeping users satisfied they'll find it.
I don't kow how my opinion can be shallow when I confirmed Nordeus need to make a profit.
I don't get why people think forum members opinion doesn't reflect the majority at all when you had people who created accounts just to say "the new transfer sucks" and never came back. I saw at least 5 ingame friends same level as mine who quit. New players of course won't have anything to say, but those who have been playing for longer have a standard to compare the new TE with the old. Complaining and suggestions are the only thing that remains for us. If some users decide to do PR for Nordeus then fine.
@KenoticFC
I was referring to the comment just before my post.
Please note that I agree that the negotiations process sucks, an I had already claimed that in another thread you started.
My post was meant to state that Nordeus is not just profit-driven and that they might still do something about it.
Sorry mate! It's just that every time some new idea comes it always comes to Nordeus and how match they make.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryC
What exactly sucks at negotiations system and for how long?
I guess the high price, but as we all compete with each other and all pay the same, I dont see a big profit, if everyone would be able to buy super good players for 1-5 tokens. And for what do we need the big amount of tokens each season?
A starting price makes us think twice about the investition and I didnt ever regret any deal as I look for the players with good white skills.
And I dont understand the "problem" with 1t offers - just 1 click to "solve" it?
I rather do this than be trendy and moan about everything in a freewareQuote:
Originally Posted by KenoticFC
I'm so sorry and embarrassed I don't have the same intellect as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kto
I hope you are at least getting some moral reward. Like you never complained in this forum, give me a break man.
ofc the company must earn money but the thing is the negotiations feature is a loose-loose situation (as the recommended, the scout list, the academy, the club shop ...)Quote:
Yes negotiations need changes and they have to be a better experience for both the buyer and the seller. I have always had an open mind in the fact that this is a game in which the company makes money and I support that.
I'd say that sellers has very little incentive to sell players this way.
Because of the high commission, they see very little of the tokens paid.
According to me Nordeus caused the problem via two mistakes
1) They devalued cash in the game with the high competition prizes and recently with the daily giveaways. Cash is worth nothing except at low levels
2) They raised expectations by letting sellers get tokens in negotiation. People are not stupid, they know how much they pay in tokens when they buy, and feel ripped-off when receiving only a fraction of it when selling.
A possible way to fix it with compromising their revenue it could be as follows
- make cash scarce again.
- make buying players cost mostly tokens
- make selling players bring only cash
For the buyer, well, seen the prices on the auction market, negotiations can be interesting if you don't want to wait for the right player to show up on one of the 360 daily auctions. It's a fine line. You can't make the player too cheap for the buyer otherwise you kill your auction market.