The negotiations is kind of frozen ---- less interest in the game ?

We're still in day 10 and YET i've not seen more than 3-4 managers making offers on 99 % players the Negotiations ...


In my league (level 33) there are only two other managers who watch the games ...


Are you guys also noticing that more managers are either quitting this game or less taking care of their teams as before ?


Maybe this is not the case for lower levels as the guys are full of enthusiasm and ambition but is this a macro size middle/ high levels issue or just me facing it on my server ?

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

We're still in day 10 and YET i've not seen more than 3-4 managers making offers on 99 % players the Negotiations ...


In my league (level 33) there are only two other managers who watch the games ...


Are you guys also noticing that more managers are either quitting this game or less taking care of their teams as before ?


Maybe this is not the case for lower levels as the guys are full of enthusiasm and ambition but is this a macro size middle/ high levels issue or just me facing it on my server ?

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No im only level 8 and I've noticed the ghost ships seems more prevalent. A few at the top of the table a couple more and that's about it. Put it this way it's the worst/most noticeable season that I have encountered. The reason "Tanking ".
IMO


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Originally Posted by USARABAT

We're still in day 10 and YET i've not seen more than 3-4 managers making offers on 99 % players the Negotiations ...


In my league (level 33) there are only two other managers who watch the games ...


Are you guys also noticing that more managers are either quitting this game or less taking care of their teams as before ?


Maybe this is not the case for lower levels as the guys are full of enthusiasm and ambition but is this a macro size middle/ high levels issue or just me facing it on my server ?

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At level 31 and I've seen a steady stream of teams from levels above drift past me over the last 5 or 6 seasons. Teams being abandoned as their managers leave the game. So far this season I've seen a player 2 levels above me change his team name as he announces his departure from top eleven and more worryingly an association member and 25 season friend of mine has gone AWOL without telling us anything.
It's getting boring. Especially when you know what lies ahead in future seasons. Same opposition, cup plus 1 level, champions plus 2/3 levels.

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

We're still in day 10 and YET i've not seen more than 3-4 managers making offers on 99 % players the Negotiations ...


In my league (level 33) there are only two other managers who watch the games ...


Are you guys also noticing that more managers are either quitting this game or less taking care of their teams as before ?


Maybe this is not the case for lower levels as the guys are full of enthusiasm and ambition but is this a macro size middle/ high levels issue or just me facing it on my server ?

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I've a friend level 3. Inactive league. I imagine many kids who download just give up quickly. Game not an instant grab. For all the millions of clubs maybe 90% are abandoned? Remove inactive nordeus for gods sake. The games best usp is the human 2 human part.

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At level 31 and I've seen a steady stream of teams from levels above drift past me over the last 5 or 6 seasons. Teams being abandoned as their managers leave the game. So far this season I've seen a player 2 levels above me change his team name as he announces his departure from top eleven and more worryingly an association member and 25 season friend of mine has gone AWOL without telling us anything.
It's getting boring. Especially when you know what lies ahead in future seasons. Same opposition, cup plus 1 level, champions plus 2/3 levels.

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I agree. How many trophies do I need to win. My plan is to get star player to club goals record next season then that's it. Level 21 currently. I have a very active league this season which is nice though. Just ready to give up now. Bored.

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I guess I still have about one year (including if I decide to tank once or twice) before I start to see the high level desert .The most competitive seasons in my experience has been 6 to 12. The first couple of seasons where also really easy because so many people abandoned their team after 1 or 2 seasons. After you passed the 4th or 5th seasons it meant that the players where more serious about the game. I saw about 70% of my old friends/rivals abandon the game after the new TM. There are still some serious players that have been in my servers since the 6th season.

One of the main reason the game declined after the 12 season I think is that people who continued to buy Tokens or packs and didn't understand how the game really worked were disappointed. I still love the game no matter the many many problems and I do try to stay hopeful for an improvement even thou the last big update has hurt the gameplay furthermore.

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I guess I still have about one year (including if I decide to tank once or twice) before I start to see the high level desert .
. I saw about 70% of my old friends/rivals abandon the game after the new TM.
One of the main reason the game declined after the 12 season I think is that people who continued to buy Tokens or packs and didn't understand how the game really worked were disappointed.

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AT my server, the top server league (56) is quite active although our King is totally controlling all trophies every season haha :D
I totally agree with you about your second and third statement, the new transfer system has pushed away many managers .... Nordeus should improve the auction experience and improve the outcome of the academy to keep more managers engaged ...

Think that teams who started at June - July 2016, with the start of associations, have been mostly loyal to the game.
Noticed that my main team (founded June 2016, level 19 after one season of tanking at level 11) had always encountered harder opposition than my second and third team who were founded later.

In particular, my second team (level 12 after several seasons of tanking at level 1) is in a land of no-one, where he can grab all trebles/trophies (If I want) with no opposition

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The situation of my third team (level 14) is even more worrying that I can grab several championships and CL/SL finals with a lineup with quality 40-50%

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Game is just too much randomness. I'm level 45 and I just don't care about this game anymore. How often did I loose against a much weaker opponent who doesn't even watch the matches or manages his team well?
After over 4 years of playing I don't get the excitement anymore unfortunately. I love this game and I still like playing it, but I feel like anytime I try to win something or go for something I get disappointed. This is why I saved up over 1K tokens and 2K green packs. I could go for the ultimate season with a crazy team but even then I fear I would not do well and get so mad that I delete this game.
I just play through the seasons with my average 6 to 7 star team and thats it. I don't understand the logic behind this randomness tbh. I would much rather spend money on this game when I would actually achieve something with it. Let me loose against better teams. But losing against worse teams to make me spend my money? This just prevents me from doing it, I would still get trolled.

You should have used the 1000 tokens to buy an entire 18 years old team and 2000 rests to build unbeatable 9 stars players and win everything...

Regarding losing against weaker teams , this troll results may occur once- twice per season but if it occurs more than 3 times, there's definitely something wrong with your team and your decisions regarding formation , tactics, training, choice of players ...

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You should have used the 1000 tokens to buy an entire 18 years old team and 2000 rests to build unbeatable 9 stars players and win everything

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I could but why? :D I would maybe win 3 or 4 trebles and thats it. Its not worth it imo. I don't know man, I'm just scared I wouldn't even win everything with such a team and get angry. I just don't have any trust in this game. lol

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Regarding losing against weaker teams , this troll results may occur once- twice per season but if it occurs more than 3 times, there's definitely something wrong with your team and your decisions regarding formation , tactics, training, choice of players ...

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This should not happen at all. In another manager game I play, when your team is 20% better than your opponents you are guaranteed to win the game. This is a game and not real life football. Being good or better should be rewarded.

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This should not happen at all. In another manager game I play, when your team is 20% better than your opponents you are guaranteed to win the game. This is a game and not real life football. Being good or better should be rewarded.

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if it's 20% better there are 90-95% chances that you always win on top 11 unless a troll result happen but this is a rare case ...
But IF every team MUST ALWAYS win over 5-10% lower teams , the result would become predetermined ... no fun and no hope to watch the game in that case , is that really what you want ?

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if it's 20% better there are 90-95% chances that you always win on top 11 unless a troll result happen but this is a rare case ...
But IF every team MUST ALWAYS win over 5-10% lower teams , the result would become predetermined ... no fun and no hope to watch the game in that case , is that really what you want ?

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It is the developers task to figure ways out that we as managers can get more influence on the outcome of a game. And the problem with topeleven is, they give us the features but they are not transparent and they don't have an influence on the game. If it's formations-counter formations, the bonuses you can apply, friends that watch your games, special abilities and so on.
No one knows what all of this actually does. In the end, the game is random and picks a winner. Nothing you can do about it.

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It is the developers task to figure ways out that we as managers can get more influence on the outcome of a game. And the problem with topeleven is, they give us the features but they are not transparent and they don't have an influence on the game. If it's formations-counter formations, the bonuses you can apply, friends that watch your games, special abilities and so on.
No one knows what all of this actually does. In the end, the game is random and picks a winner. Nothing you can do about it.

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Remember that the engine who determines the results in this game which is played by millions is a program based on mathematics and algorithm ( there's no space for desires and emotions). I agree with you that the developers are not transparent and that's why I LOVE this game and this hidden part is making it attractant because the developers wants you to use your mind to decipher and decode its secrets... If developers were transparents, the game becomes easy for everybody ( 1+1 = 2 * 3 = 6-2 =4).. and if two managers in same power and in same level or in two close levels faced each other and both of them did their job that you suggest that should be clear, then the troll results might increase much more ....

Would you mind sharing your club history ?