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Hi,
Iv just picked up two 18 yr old attacking midfielders to play either side of an AM and ST. I will be training them ready for next season and wondered what success people are having with special abilities in these positions.
I was thinking shadow striker or one on one scorer.
Il be playing a 3 (cb)-1(DMc) -2(cm)-3(AML-AMC-AMR)-1(ST)
I wouldn't give them a special ability. Nobody knows how effective they are. Use the greens you would have spent to boost fitness, speed and dribbling.
The best AMR I ever had averaged a goal a game with no special ability.
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Originally Posted by Altiplano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTbBdDZw2Ck
I personally think you can see the results for yourself live. A player with a free kick ability often scores combined with good shooting and finishing stats. The defensive wall guys 9/10 block a free kick. The corner taker are always dangerous highlights.
I have a superstar striker, who scored 23 goals for me last season at level 31. This season he has managed 4 goals. My partner has a world class striker, similar stats but 1:1 scorer and he has hit 30+ goals consistently in the league in the last 3 seasons. I also read a thread about them and it highlighted the importance and difference they make in teams. There were originally 11 special abilities. One for each player on the pitch. I’m going to trial over the next few seasons while I rank, picking up cheap, good 18 yr olds and training one of each ability. Il post the results in a few seasons if I remember this thread.
No, train skill instead SA 's are not worth the effort;)
All depends what your team need. I prefer my aml/r have fk & ck SA. Both working for me good. This season my new amr with ck already did 13 assists (league+cup+cl). My last (old) amr with ck had 65 assists in one season for the team.
Good luck with your SA
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Hi Bengali,Quote:
Originally Posted by ibangali
Would you say it definitely makes a huge difference then? There is a team in my league whose first 11 all have special abilities. They regularly hit 6 past opposition and are only rated 110% to my 124% yet beat me 3-1 at my ground. There AMR\L are top scorers in league and average over a goal a game. I’m currently phasing out my MR and ML to make way for AML and AML next season.
If you farm rests every day and do the training methodically, then I'd say you need SA for your long-term players.
Quality is a real b17ch in this game. You can have 100% team or 120% team, or even 140% team, but there will be no real difference. The gameplay will be the same. The game is slightly smarter than simple "get more quality", because on the next level you will have matching opponents regardless of your team's quality. 115-140% team is enough for almost everything, including playing in Platinum division, and we can afford having SA with this quality.
SA is a way to make your team stronger without gaining actual quality, that's why it's valuable. It is the same thing as mutantism: squeezing every drop from the current team quality. Getting SA when the player has low quality is very easy, so on the high-quality level (120%+) SA will mean just a few missing percents, not a full star. SA worth it, as would anything else that provides any bonus without gaining the actual quality.
In other words, it is better to have 110-130% team with SAs than 120-140% without SA (I bet the difference is significantly smaller), because on the long run your average opponent will match your quality anyway. And it is better to have a small bonus than don't.
ESPAÑOL
AML/AMR = FALSO DELANTERO.
ENGLISH
AML/AMR = False Front
the ability i trust and seem working is FK, wall and aerial.
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I’m not to sure what you trying to say about other team on your league or your team.
My opinion was as long as game system given option to have a SA and if I can effort (resources) then I’ll have it. My main team every player have SA, I mostly play 4 at the back, 2 defenders have wall n other 2 have aerial, still some match they fail to block oppo fk or ck. I always have 3 playmakers in t11; they also do assists sometimes.
My other teams doesn’t have all SA but I always try to have fk n ck for them.
Today’s cup q.fianl I played away same lvl 16% lower team, I was leading 0:2, my second goal came from fk, but I conceded one goal and my 2 aerial defender fail to block oppo ck, end up 1:2. You never know which one work when and which one not right on time.
shadow striker
Yes mate, please train ..... all my first team players have special ability and its great, they can make a difference in the match, especially if the opponent is equal . That is my experience and I hardly lose a match ..... go for it, especially with 18 yo when you spend 50 greens and you get a special ability not to mention that free kick and corner kick needs only 40 skill points, thats a bargain .... with 30 videos a day, 1 and half day and you get it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeker85
At the end of the day do what you want its your packs, but since you asked your opinion in the forum I'm gonna give my 2 cents, don't train them special abilities. Unless a player ALREADY has them when you buy him, special abilities make 0 difference. AML/AMR's tend to be the best players anyway and the engine selects them by default as your main in-form players.
If your player is young (18-19 y.o.) , fast trainer and you have 50-60 greens to spend, give him C-K (I suppose that you have someone else for F-K).
Thanks for your input guys. Some very handy information there. Il do as planned and pick up as many good 18yr olds as I can and get them a special ability before next season. Il be outside the top 8 so can save some green packs that if otherwise use on my team preparing for games. I’m just gunning for the champions league this season, so may just need a few to prep for those games alone.
Don't buy a lot of youngsters at the same season, unless you are a token buyer. Buy 2-4 young FTs every season, and after four seasons you will have a decent team. Meanwhile patch the holes with cheap old 5* players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeker85
Anyone found a good way of training the special ability as quickly and efficiently as possible? Do you have to train the way you usually would for the particular players position?
I already have 125% players in their mid twenties I can patch the team with and add to their careers over the next few seasons while I hunt for 4 or 5 good youngsters per season. Yanked for a while a few seasons ago.
Read the guides:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeker85
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...s-players.html
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ng-system.html
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...-trainers.html
Lol.
This sa just a pure bs.
Players with sa were not different with players without sa. All my top scorer every season comes from midfield and none upgraded with sa.
I won the trebel with non sa players beating a superior teams full of sa.
So sa is just a pure bs designed to cheat your tokens and greenpack upgrading players into a decent level not superior than none sa.
Ive already done a testing and it proved sa just nonsense attribute which not giving any advantage to your team or teamplay.
Better spent the green packs power train your players into 9* legend lol
I AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by VladimirPutin007
Please, tell us how exactly you did those testing that proved something.Quote:
Originally Posted by VladimirPutin007
And how I can train a player to a 9* legend for 60 rest packs.Quote:
Originally Posted by VladimirPutin007
60gp? Not working that way bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxcatl
In my calculation averagely u can get is to upgrade 20% by using 100gp. Unless u found extra special player u might train him 20% just using 80% which is hard to found/buy. (Once a while u can buy him but i will tell about this subject later).
Unless u use this method. U collect everyday 30gp watching free ads and couple with attending everyday matches and assoc u may collect up to 700-750gp per season. Dont and never use it.
After the season end, wait until next season started. On day one, u buy special training with 20 tokens and for 24hours u can power train them for extra 30-50% more than usual training.
Use all gp u accumulated and power train selected main eleven players that u will use in main squad. Using this method u can maintain 7-9 * players in your team forseable future (perhaps extended to 5-6 season ahead).
Repeat this method after 5-6 seasons later when your current squad aging and need replacing with new one.
What is the main attribute for FK takers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxcatl
1. Shooting
2. Finishing
No need get fk sa to get formidable fk takers... u just need maximum training which ever players u want with this attribute and voila u already get the best fk takers in the world lol... both mine AMR AML fitted with full 340% finising and 300+% shooting and there scored like crazy mf lol...
Same method for pk and ck...
To get prolific strikers it bs to have him with sa. Just power train him with:
1. Speed
2. Positioning
3. Shooting
4. Finishing
Im sure he will have decent season scoring lots for your team... better than a striker with sa which most of the time just a dud and scoring not much as expected...
Average 28 yo is the standard in t11 when their algorithm will auto decrease players ability to upgrade more (and likely to need 80% more gp to training them to stay fit) and its time to change replace him with younger one. It is wasted gp to maintain senior players but much more better spend it to upgrade tge younger one... so 6-7 season is average for one cycle of formidable team imho...
I am not your bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by VladimirPutin007
You said:
Well, it costs about 60 rest packs to train SA to a young untrained FT. "Not working that way", no kidding? What a surprise, 60 rests are not enough to "train your players into 9* legend lol".Quote:
Originally Posted by VladimirPutin007
What a bunch of fantasies and wrong information! You haven't tested anything, and you don't have any proof of what you said. Well, except "I don't use it, and it seems to be fine", which is not a proof at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by VladimirPutin007
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