Starting 11 affects association draw

Why is it now you can put a reserve 11 in first team places and it affects both associations strength, (hence a weaker opponent) and the individual opponent you play. If you put out the weakest reserves in your association you draw the weaker team.
This has led to chaos in association and now more people are realising it, it will get worse.
I have written four messages to Nordeus and they just won’t admit it. Are their customer service workers a bit dim or just plain denying the problem?


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Originally Posted by ChelseaJohn

Why is it now you can put a reserve 11 in first team places and it affects both associations strength, (hence a weaker opponent) and the individual opponent you play. If you put out the weakest reserves in your association you draw the weaker team.
This has led to chaos in association and now more people are realising it, it will get worse.
I have written four messages to Nordeus and they just won’t admit it. Are their customer service workers a bit dim or just plain denying the problem?


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Last weekend, it didn't give us weaker opponents, it just changed the seeds.

It did with us, and we watched the stars come off of our assoc strength as each team put reserves in. We played 35-40% teams. We are 140-160


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Have just swapped out my best players and put in my worst possible 11 players. My stars halved, dropping from 113% to 46% and this is what was showing for my team when I looked in associations. Will this affect the draw? I hope so!
And I'll bet this is a bug that has come about thanks to the Devs messing about with our displayed average last season. Was it broken? ...........then why mess about with it?

so are the draws for the Spain Tour already made or will they be made tomorrow morning ? i just swapped my reserve 11 for this matter

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Originally Posted by Altiplano

Have just swapped out my best players and put in my worst possible 11 players. My stars halved, dropping from 113% to 46% and this is what was showing for my team when I looked in associations. Will this affect the draw? I hope so!
And I'll bet this is a bug that has come about thanks to the Devs messing about with our displayed average last season. Was it broken? ...........then why mess about with it?

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yes it does affect the draw. I'm doing same for a month now.
they tried to make it better, for 4-5 days it WAS impossible to hide your stars. but, on popular demand we now have this.

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Originally Posted by Altiplano

Have just swapped out my best players and put in my worst possible 11 players. My stars halved, dropping from 113% to 46% and this is what was showing for my team when I looked in associations. Will this affect the draw? I hope so!
And I'll bet this is a bug that has come about thanks to the Devs messing about with our displayed average last season. Was it broken? ...........then why mess about with it?

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Yes exactly what I’ve been saying. No one seems to have addressed it and Nordeus won’t even admit it. Started happening when they messed with the % stat


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Originally Posted by ChelseaJohn

It did with us, and we watched the stars come off of our assoc strength as each team put reserves in. We played 35-40% teams. We are 140-160


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What division is your association in?

Mine is in platinum

2 weekends ago: We dropped about 10% on average and got weaker opponents

last weekend: Dropped about 25-30% on average and got same quality opponents, although some of them did have the reserve team in as well. (We hit a 7* first 11 average during the last week)

I'm not calling anyone out, just wondering if by dropping so much, we put ourselves into a subgroup filled with other associations that were doing the same?

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Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel

What division is your association in?

Mine is in platinum

2 weekends ago: We dropped about 10% on average and got weaker opponents

last weekend: Dropped about 25-30% on average and got same quality opponents, although some of them did have the reserve team in as well. (We hit a 7* first 11 average during the last week)

I'm not calling anyone out, just wondering if by dropping so much, we put ourselves into a subgroup filled with other associations that were doing the same?

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We set up a new association starting from scratch. Now in Silver 3. That’s the problem now, you can draw bigger teams who have just put reserves out. As word gets out everyone will start doing it


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At what time the draw will set? don't mean officially coz I know it's after 19 hours

about 13.00 GMT

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

about 13.00 GMT

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This means about 19 hours while it's officially after 13 hours ...
Do you mean it's already set?

ooops, sorry
messed with times zones (added 2 in my zone :p )
I mean it's 8.30- 9.00 GMT

And playing with money is not fair. This is a great business ,very doping :)

It's true that I can manipulate asso draw with main formation.
Why the devs hate this game so much? :mad:

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Originally Posted by 112000

It's true that I can manipulate asso draw with main formation.
Why the devs hate this game so much? :mad:

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LOL don't try this if you are in platinum division! I did this with 2 of my teams in my association and I got paired with world #12 top eleven freaks. They did thesame and reduced their quality to 3 star but I can see that they have some 8 star teams

Proof that it doesn't work ( i knowned it before ).
Thread can be close !


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It doesn't work in Platinum, because all team are all strong.
But in Gold 1, it works.
Damn, I will get my asso to Platinum this season.

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Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz

Proof that it doesn't work ( i knowned it before ).
Thread can be close !

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I knew that.
Just waiting to see some X- files theories :p

* let's keep it open, has fun.

I confirm it works

Fielded my less than 1* reserves on the pitch, my association went down to 4* as rating and we were coupled with a low 5* asso

I fielded again my top 11 and asso went up to 6* as rating

Moreover I was drawn against the worst team of them

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Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz

Proof that it doesn't work ( i knowned it before ).
Thread can be close !


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As the tournament is over, so why come back in 2 stars?

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Originally Posted by Javert89

I confirm it works

Fielded my less than 1* reserves on the pitch, my association went down to 4* as rating and we were coupled with a low 5* asso

I fielded again my top 11 and asso went up to 6* as rating

Moreover I was drawn against the worst team of them

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When did you fielded your players exactly?

Before the draw (usually friday 10am here CET) or 1 day before?

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Originally Posted by Eric Jego

As the tournament is over, so why come back in 2 stars?

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Ok , don't pay too much attention at the stars average that our FA group may show actually , it is not intentional to the draw .
The thruth is that nordeus made succefuly 2 changes ( the last one was a fix of the first lol ) in the quality team are showing .
Since the last change , now if you put your reserve in the field your average immediatly change and the association's average too .
It means the starting 11 is taken into account for your average .
But it doesn't mean the draw is now doing the same . But some people believe this now lol ...
Nothing has change for the draw but now many teams donkt show their real average of the 11 best players so many people have now a false interpretation with the recent draws .

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Originally Posted by 112000

It doesn't work in Platinum, because all team are all strong.
But in Gold 1, it works.
Damn, I will get my asso to Platinum this season.

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it doesn't work in Platinum
it doesn't work in Gold 1
it doesn't work in Bronze 1

as Kaizer Franz said
case closed :p

It makes thing crazy and messy, I mean members ranking and their oppo, not the best q against the best of the other side now

We dont change our starting 11 yet we are drawn against young turkisk scumbag legends and the cheats topboom every weekend....

And it does make a difference, TOPBOOM strongest team which would effectively be 10 stars if the 10th star showed, from the cheating tactic of fielding your weakest 11 players their 10 star team managed to play our weakest team at 7 star, dirty little cheats,

It does make a difference.
I've done it for this weekend. Dropping my starting lineup from 7 stars to 3 before the draw. I now face the weakest team in the opposition association for today's semi.
Although nothing is guaranteed, supposing I win both games, the other 5 members only have to win 50% of their matches to put us in the final.
Manipulating associations like this increases the possibility of reaching the final and at least picking up the 25 bonus points for finishing 2nd.

A great draw again...

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How many members you have in the asso?

5 members 140*2 110*2 90*1