Help to build a training tutorial

So of course I’m frustated like most of you guys
I farm green packs all season to fast train all my young players to 120% at the beginning of season. I don’t try to have mutants, but do focus on white skills I feel is important to specific players. For example my strikers I always train shooting and finishing to about 180% before I move to another white skill
So I tried on my 19 year old 6* shooting training and I got 0 skill gained, after I did a session of 3* PGS and 3* and still nothing
I guess Nordeus will never tell us exactly what changed.
I would like to take the initiative and work on a tutorial that will help all of us to train efficiently, but I believe is hard to make tests by yourself.

Anybody in this forum that is willing to cooperate so we could each run tests on different positions and different skills? See how different % ranges of white skills are affected. Maybe we should aim to first raise all white skills to 120% ? Maybe it’s not about the % of a specific skill but more about mixing drills on a session. I guess a lot has to be tested.

Pm me if you are interested

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Originally Posted by pat0812

So of course I’m frustated like most of you guys
I farm green packs all season to fast train all my young players to 120% at the beginning of season. I don’t try to have mutants, but do focus on white skills I feel is important to specific players. For example my strikers I always train shooting and finishing to about 180% before I move to another white skill
So I tried on my 19 year old 6* shooting training and I got 0 skill gained, after I did a session of 3* PGS and 3* and still nothing
I guess Nordeus will never tell us exactly what changed.
I would like to take the initiative and work on a tutorial that will help all of us to train efficiently, but I believe is hard to make tests by yourself.

Anybody in this forum that is willing to cooperate so we could each run tests on different positions and different skills? See how different % ranges of white skills are affected. Maybe we should aim to first raise all white skills to 120% ? Maybe it’s not about the % of a specific skill but more about mixing drills on a session. I guess a lot has to be tested.

Pm me if you are interested

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"19 year old 6* shooting training" shooting% 100%? 330%?

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Originally Posted by khris

"19 year old 6* shooting training" shooting% 100%? 330%?

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Shooting 292%
Finishing 249%
Beginning of season i worked on both
Last season i worked mainly on strength, passing and dribbling

I tried it with other striker that has around 183% shooting and 191% finishing on both skills and also 0
When I did a session of 3* shooting and 3* pgs he gained 2% but only from the PGS drill

I hope we can figure it out by end of season so we know on what to use or green packs

Right now I have too many games, so I don’t train my good players, they gain skills from games and are all at 125% already so will end at 130%

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Originally Posted by pat0812

Shooting 292%
Finishing 249%
Beginning of season i worked on both
Last season i worked mainly on strength, passing and dribbling

I tried it with other striker that has around 183% shooting and 191% finishing on both skills and also 0
When I did a session of 3* shooting and 3* pgs he gained 2% but only from the PGS drill

I hope we can figure it out by end of season so we know on what to use or green packs

Right now I have too many games, so I don’t train my good players, they gain skills from games and are all at 125% already so will end at 130%

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"other striker that has around 183% shooting and 191% finishing on both skills and also 0" so looking how my players win skills... this one had not 18 years :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by khris

"other striker that has around 183% shooting and 191% finishing on both skills and also 0" so looking how my players win skills... this one had not 18 years :rolleyes:

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From what I see there must be a cap of % you achieve on a skill that the system shuts you down or you will gain really slowly. Is it 180%? 170% ? 160% ?
To be safe for now the best would be to fast train the lower white skills of every player until we can figure out the hidden cap that slows down.
If anybody has strikers with shooting in the range of 100-180% i would love to see the results you get on a set of 6* shooting

oke I am with this, now gunna dinner, stay too ready for assos (LOL) and I will continue with these dard attributes...


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now.. still I wanna try to reach 160 in these skills.
yep the plan is train these defensive skills till 160 and save every log.


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Train the lowest white stat.


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Just trained

DC-DR-DL 18 y.o fast trainer
DC-DR 18 y.o fast trainer
DL 19 y.o fast trainer

they have white skills between 120-150% except heading

Now pressing - gym - and long run are not working as before as you may have noticed

Gave them Fast Counter Attack ... each one of them gain 5-8% for each set of 6* FCAs

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Originally Posted by pat0812

So of course I’m frustated like most of you guys
I guess Nordeus will never tell us exactly what changed.
I would like to take the initiative and work on a tutorial that will help all of us to train efficiently, but I believe is hard to make tests by yourself.

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To sum up : NORDEUS wants to managers from now on to ALSO train and target DARK SKILLS which are not efficient to slow down the creation of strong players by professional managers who target white skills... this is done to help the amateur managers have better chances in their matches ...

It also push managers to use more rests to achieve what has been done before the update ... and also push them to sell players earlier than before which will increase the need of tokens ....

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

To sum up : NORDEUS wants to managers from now on to ALSO train and target DARK SKILLS which are not efficient to slow down the creation of strong players by professional managers who target white skills... this is done to help the amateur managers have better chances in their matches ...

It also push managers to use more rests to achieve what has been done before the update ... and also push them to sell players earlier than before which will increase the need of tokens ....

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"It also push managers to use more rests to achieve what has been done before the update ... and also push them to sell players earlier than before which will increase the need of tokens ...."

The game comes to it's origins, and those who've been here for years will notice why.

Guys, I think that there isn't cap for higher attributes. In my opinion there is limit of difference between high and low attributes. For example, when some high attribute become twice higher than lowest player's attribute it will develop slower and slower...

In others words we are screwed up! Nordeus killed possibility of best managers in this game to train their players. From now all of us will train our players like amateurs.

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Guys, I think that there isn't cap for higher attributes. In my opinion there is limit of difference between high and low attributes. For example, when some high attribute become twice higher than lowest player's attribute it will develop slower and slower...

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yes, something like this

After 5 GK sets, 16 % skills.
Ok for a 112% player

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Originally Posted by po_zdrach

Guys, I think that there isn't cap for higher attributes. In my opinion there is limit of difference between high and low attributes. For example, when some high attribute become twice higher than lowest player's attribute it will develop slower and slower...

In others words we are screwed up! Nordeus killed possibility of best managers in this game to train their players. From now all of us will train our players like amateurs.

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Thanks for sharing this observation, I will keep it in mind.

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Still getting the same kind of yields in "normal" players. But you might be up to something. Gonna try on my better players later today.

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Originally Posted by mcdoomer

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Still getting the same kind of yields in "normal" players. But you might be up to something. Gonna try on my better players later today.

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How do you get 40% skills in 1 session??

Ηe is a magician! :o

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

yes, something like this

After 5 GK sets, 16 % skills.
Ok for a 112% player

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Have u another player with 170% shooting? 158 finishing? or 85 heading?

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Originally Posted by khris

Have u another player with 170% shooting? 158 finishing? or 85 heading?

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Of the same age, with the same training pace?

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Originally Posted by Toxcatl

Of the same age, with the same training pace?

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This is the idea, :)

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Training screwed! All you do in training is to get the balance between the lower and higher skill.


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