Should I take this offer?

OK, so this is my first crack at level 4 and I was looking forward to seeing what negotiations are like for 3 levels.

My brother is 2 levels higher and got me into this mess of a game. He told me that negs were a pain in the ass. He constantly has to reject tons of them every day.

So, I have been getting offers for 3 guys over the past few days and the most anyone has offered is 1 (one) token, which of course means that I am being offered money well below the market value.

Also, I have been reading the MANY posts of people whinging about this "lack of respect" when it comes to making offers.

Here is the latest one for me. I just bought him yesterday for 6 tokens so this one was a catch, since he is my 3rd best player and one that is playing a position that is hard to find for his quality level (38). FYI, the avg quality of my team is 31.8, so needless to say, I wont be giving this guy up easily. Offer me 50 tokens, so I can replace him with a scout and perhaps I will let him go. He wont be too happy to go and miss the bunga-bunga parties, but hey, business is business.

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As you can see, the offer is for ZERO (0) tokens and $3.15M.

Does he want me to grease myself up with the KY on this one?

Let the clock run down to 0. so his tokens are withheld for 24 hours!

I would put the transfer price at 20 tokens , maximum value:))

Hmmm, I already wait until the clock runs for the most part, that is, until I have skill points to add to him. That way I can get him over the hump and off the negs list.

And thanks for advising me on the 20 tokens max rule. I had no clue. So I am assuming you can put the min offer at 20 tokens and if they dont offer 20 I dont see any offers?

UPDATE: just checked out the "set offer" thing. I am not happy with the prospect of anyone offering 20 tokens to me, almost 50 total, and he gets my player that I cant replace easily. Its hard enough to get a good DMR/MR on the scout list, let alone on the transfer market. So that is not really a solution for this player, thanks anyways.

You should have in the right " Set selling price "

You press there and you go with the cursor at the maximum:)

Then if someone wants to buy him he must offer 20 tokens for him or else you expect untill the time is up

I once put the max offer for one of my players and one token buyer bought it:))

Just to be clear, if I let the clock run out, he DOES NOT get the player. Correct?

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Just to be clear, if I let the clock run out, he DOES NOT get the player. Correct?

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Yes , of course , the player will be in your squad

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Originally Posted by Rubenito

You should have in the right " Set selling price "

You press there and you go with the cursor at the maximum:)

Then if someone wants to buy him he must offer 20 tokens for him or else you expect untill the time is up

I once put the max offer for one of my players and one token buyer bought it:))

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Rub, I get what you are saying. I am saying that I most likely wont be able to replace this player for 20 tokens. It takes ages for me to find this position at this quality. 20 tokens aint enough.

On another note: since I can be a mischievous asshole at times, I clicked on the goofball making the offer to see his team and make an offer on his best players. I CANT make an offer on ANY of his players. How is that fair that he can see and offer on mine, but I cant make offers on his. Assuming we are both on the same server, I should be able to do this. He has a world class MC but I wouldnt be able to touch that because of the quality restriction, but he has a ST with 1v1 at 37 quality that I would love to make an offer on, zero tokens of course.

Or can you only make offers on people 38-39 quality for me.

That´s a poor offer and a greedy manager! Decline it or wait until the clock counts down to zero.

i`v had same for one of player`s i just signed ( 4 tokens) and within 30 mins had bid 0 tokens and less than paid so leave timer to run down :) also someone else could bid ? so far i`v had 3 offers and last offer was 12 tokens + more than i paid, so checked oppo and he was one level lower but same rating as mine, what shocked me was he was offering his entire bank roll< lol, still left 24hrs to see if any other bids came.

on another note the most money you can receive is double is value and most token`s you can get is 20 so be careful, the player i have is 19 yrs old DMR/RM like i`m selling not :)

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Originally Posted by spornybol

i`v had same for one of player`s i just signed ( 4 tokens) and within 30 mins had bid 0 tokens and less than paid so leave timer to run down :) also someone else could bid ? so far i`v had 3 offers and last offer was 12 tokens + more than i paid, so checked oppo and he was one level lower but same rating as mine, what shocked me was he was offering his entire bank roll< lol, still left 24hrs to see if any other bids came.

on another note the most money you can receive is double is value and most token`s you can get is 20 so be careful, the player i have is 19 yrs old DMR/RM like i`m selling not :)

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Like I said, I do NOT want to sell him. 20 tokens is not enough. The price that this guy is at, with him being 21, the odds are he is a fast trainer.

Nobody has addressed my earlier question...How is it that the manager can make this offer but I cannot make an offer on ANY of his players? We are on the same server or he would not be able to make an offer to me. What gives?

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Rub, I get what you are saying. I am saying that I most likely wont be able to replace this player for 20 tokens. It takes ages for me to find this position at this quality. 20 tokens aint enough.

On another note: since I can be a mischievous asshole at times, I clicked on the goofball making the offer to see his team and make an offer on his best players. I CANT make an offer on ANY of his players. How is that fair that he can see and offer on mine, but I cant make offers on his. Assuming we are both on the same server, I should be able to do this. He has a world class MC but I wouldnt be able to touch that because of the quality restriction, but he has a ST with 1v1 at 37 quality that I would love to make an offer on, zero tokens of course.

Or can you only make offers on people 38-39 quality for me.

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Most likely your player need 1 skill pont to be scout.that's why he was in negolation list automatically.He also can not make an offer none of your players unless they are in negolation list,and they end up there automatically when they remain only 1 skill poimt to next star.If you are friends and if you are in 1 server you can bid for all 3-5 stars players in yours teams.
his mistake making the offer is not seen the level of manager and makes an offer, which can not be accepted

Ps: i am not 100% sure but an attempt to try to explain the rules for negolation transfers.
in which case you can make / receive negolation ofer.
1. You need to be in 1 server(It necessarily)
2. You need to be in one leage
3.you need to be friends
if you are friends or if your teams is in 1 leage you can bidd for all 3-5 star players
4 your player need 1 skil poin to be scout in this case he is in negolation list automatically and some ppl can make offer for him but only for him not for all players from your team

Ps2: I hope I wrote it understandable for all

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Originally Posted by chakalat

Most likely your player need 1 skill pont to be scout.that's why he was in negolation list automatically.He also can not make an offer none of your players unless they are in negolation list,and they end up there automatically when they remain only 1 skill poimt to next star.If you are friends and if you are in 1 server you can bid for all 3-5 stars players in yours teams.
his mistake making the offer is not seen the level of manager and makes an offer, which can not be accepted

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Chak, Thanks for the....info. I think I got most of it.

So if we are not friends, then I can only make offers from the neg list?

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Chak, Thanks for the....info. I think I got most of it.

So if we are not friends, then I can only make offers from the neg list?

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Or if your teams is in 1 leage,i make edit in my old post :)

I personally use often negolation for buy/sell players and I think I know the rules.judging by what I've seen so far I can tell you roughly what prices are transfers.of course these transfers are when you bet on a player who is good for you but weak for owner.most often these are players from the academy or old scouts have now become weak.for players older than 21 years without SA no sense to bidd,their current owners are either inactive or rarely play and pay particular attention to the game.chance to take a player over 21 years without SA is almost 0.in the game has all kinds of people any who just opened negolation list and bidd on players without watching lvl manager who have this player in the moment.so happens someone who is the same lvl as you want your player,of course you are wondering what is this arrogant idiot and 1 token that does not want to give and he is a man who does not think and ignore what doing.
far as I have seen transfers are possible above the following prices:
18-20 years old player no SA 3-4 tokens (its 18 tokens max in total 4 for player owner and other for Nordeus)
18-20 years old +SA 3-6 tokens(22 max tokens in total)
21-25 years old no SA 1-3 tokens
21-25 years old +SA 2-5 tokens
25-30 years old No SA 1-2 tokens
25-30 years old +SA 1-3 tokens
There are of course exceptions, but these are the most common and normal prices.Whereas this applies to players that are unnecessary for sale anyway.

I receive 0 token offer about 10 times a day. are managers making fun?

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Originally Posted by QuocBao

I receive 0 token offer about 10 times a day. are managers making fun?

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read my previous post hope you understand why it happens

20 tokens means 48, I think every1 rather buy Scouts.

The auction is stupid! The neg is also stupid! Nordeous is smart!

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Originally Posted by fmldotcom

20 tokens means 48, I think every1 rather buy Scouts.

The auction is stupid! The neg is also stupid! Nordeous is smart!

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Welll, minimum 45, but most likely 48. What if you wait several scout lists and still no AMC/AMR with shadow that you want. You are willing to pay 50 tokens, but it never hits your list and rarely goes cheap on the transfer market. Neg for 45 tokens would be the smart thing to do.

Still, I'm not letting this guy go for 20 tokens, or 45 tokens.

I think there should be a minimum amount of tokens offered when you first make the offer, so there are no zero token offers.

if someone pay 20 tokens for player in negolation he is crazy or he have more tokens than brain.Believe me if you want but in my server people often use negolation.I prefer to take 1-3 + token money than to sell players from the academy on the market.which may take more money but can buy it for a 1-2 tokens.Same thing when I buy.I prefer to give 15-20 tokens but take a player that day will be scout.In market may take a similar for 1 token but can meet many token buyers and spend more than 20 tokens but no player that I need.so at least for me negolation work good and i have many players bought from there.who not like it has two other options:50 tokens for scout or TM where anything is possible

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Welll, minimum 45, but most likely 48. What if you wait several scout lists and still no AMC/AMR with shadow that you want. You are willing to pay 50 tokens, but it never hits your list and rarely goes cheap on the transfer market. Neg for 45 tokens would be the smart thing to do.

Still, I'm not letting this guy go for 20 tokens, or 45 tokens.

I think there should be a minimum amount of tokens offered when you first make the offer, so there are no zero token offers.

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example the max player you can buy is 19, but scout is 24.

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Originally Posted by cracicot

Welll, minimum 45, but most likely 48. What if you wait several scout lists and still no AMC/AMR with shadow that you want. You are willing to pay 50 tokens, but it never hits your list and rarely goes cheap on the transfer market. Neg for 45 tokens would be the smart thing to do.

Still, I'm not letting this guy go for 20 tokens, or 45 tokens.

I think there should be a minimum amount of tokens offered when you first make the offer, so there are no zero token offers.

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This season in 1-st day i buy from negolation list 18 years old ST+one on one scorer SA for 21 tokens from 16lvl manager(i am 12lvl).He is scout for me from 1-st day.In the end of the season he will be 7*may previously.I will use him longer than any scout for 50 tokens:)You can imagine what bidd will be in transfer market for similar player in 1-st day:)

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Originally Posted by chakalat

Most likely your player need 1 skill pont to be scout.that's why he was in negolation list automatically.He also can not make an offer none of your players unless they are in negolation list,and they end up there automatically when they remain only 1 skill poimt to next star.If you are friends and if you are in 1 server you can bid for all 3-5 stars players in yours teams.
his mistake making the offer is not seen the level of manager and makes an offer, which can not be accepted

Ps: i am not 100% sure but an attempt to try to explain the rules for negolation transfers.
in which case you can make / receive negolation ofer.
1. You need to be in 1 server(It necessarily)
2. You need to be in one leage
3.you need to be friends
if you are friends or if your teams is in 1 leage you can bidd for all 3-5 star players
4 your player need 1 skil poin to be scout in this case he is in negolation list automatically and some ppl can make offer for him but only for him not for all players from your team

Ps2: I hope I wrote it understandable for all

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Not alwais true. In new servers where there are not lv 5 teams or higher, negotiations are open to every Q from the minimum to 39,8. I receive at least about 100 offers a day even on my Q37-38 players.

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Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree

Not alwais true. In new servers where there are not lv 5 teams or higher, negotiations are open to every Q from the minimum to 39,8. I receive at least about 100 offers a day even on my Q37-38 players.

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True,new servers where you are highest lvl this negolation not work for you.but people keep bidd without looking at it is pointless.