Has there been a change in 'Negotiations'?

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09-06-2018
gogs67

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Has there been a change in 'Negotiations'?

Since the 'new' transfer market happened I buy and sell players all the time to get tokens, try and do it at least once a day, buy for one, sell for two or three, it brings in enough for a Scout each season.
HOWEVER I haven't had an offer in the last 9 days even though I have 13 players up for sale, most with a SA
Obviously the first week of a season is usually hectic but this seems an odd turn in luck as I have always managed to sell right throughout the full 28 days.
Here's players available, it's not as if they are rubbish
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09-06-2018
khris

too much 7's lol
09-06-2018
gogs67

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Originally Posted by khris

too much 7's lol

Consistent!:D
09-06-2018
khris

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Originally Posted by gogs67

Consistent!:D

:p

Well the only thing that comes to my mind now, is the option that you're in a level that do not have more than 1-2 leagues** below... so basically you have a "empty market" of buyers....

?..

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2 levels above peobably theres just 1 league... strange if not..
09-06-2018
gogs67

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Originally Posted by khris

:p

Well the only thing that comes to my mind now, is the option that you're in a level that do not have more than 1-2 leagues** below... so basically you have a "empty market" of buyers....

?..

edited*

2 levels above peobably theres just 1 league... strange if not..

I'm level 55, but I thought that players on the market were seen by all levels now, not just ones close, ie: a level 5 player could buy from me? My players for sale would appear to them as just off 6*, no matter what level the buyer was?
09-06-2018
khris

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Originally Posted by gogs67

I'm level 55, but I thought that players on the market were seen by all levels now, not just ones close, ie: a level 5 player could buy from me? My players for sale would appear to them as just off 6*, no matter what level the buyer was?

nooope, you're wrong here.

The noral market, "runned by a bot" is homogenized, a 5* is a 80% everywhere, because the internal attributes (those who goes in levels of 5 by 5, you know, the old game, 20 points = 5* level 1, 25 points 5* level 2...) are "created when the player is sold in proportion with the owner level.

But negos nope, your 4*'s -1% only can be seen by 2 levels above, thats why I think that theres a "almost empty" market of buyers for you.... L53 should have just 1 league.... max 2..
09-06-2018
gogs67

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Originally Posted by khris

nooope, you're wrong here.

The noral market, "runned by a bot" is homogenized, a 5* is a 80% everywhere, because the internal attributes (those who goes in levels of 5 by 5, you know, the old game, 20 points = 5* level 1, 25 points 5* level 2...) are "created when the player is sold in proportion with the owner level.

But negos nope, your 4*'s -1% only can be seen by 2 levels above, thats why I think that theres a "almost empty" market of buyers for you.... L53 should have just 1 league.... max 2..

Ahh, i see that now. I've got three leagues in my level (55) so only them, level 54 and level 53 can see my players for sale.
Hmmmm, can see me giving up the game soon if it's so empty up here.
09-06-2018
nikolgiorgos

Don't know for you @gogs67 but I have some descent offers only the first 3-4 days of the season.
Also I never bought (nego) players like yours after the first week.
Usually my team is ready then.
09-06-2018
khris

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Originally Posted by gogs67

Ahh, i see that now. I've got three leagues in my level (55) so only them, level 54 and level 53 can see my players for sale.
Hmmmm, can see me giving up the game soon if it's so empty up here.

Negos show 6* -1 sp, you have a list of 4* -1 that are shown only in level 53 and the 5* -1sp is shown in level 54.^^
09-06-2018
gogs67

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Originally Posted by khris

Negos show 6* -1 sp, you have a list of 4* -1 that are shown only in level 53 and the 5* -1sp is shown in level 54.^^

Yeh, I meant if I had 6* then my level would see them, but i get now my list at the moment is all for level 53 with one level 54.
09-06-2018
gogs67

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Don't know for you @gogs67 but I have some descent offers only the first 3-4 days of the season.
Also I never bought (nego) players like yours after the first week.
Usually my team is ready then.

I'm usually ready in few hours! :D
But i've always been able to sell throughout the season, this is a bit of a first for me. It's the only way to get a few extra tokens, I guess the game just kinda tails off at the higher levels for non paying players
09-06-2018
nikolgiorgos

hmm, maybe it was the "Friendlies" effect ;)
lol
We 'll see the new season.
09-06-2018
USARABAT

try to add ACTIVE managers 1-2-3 -4 levels below you ... contact them through FB to discuss the price and positions they usually need ... this might help you sell players faster

keep in mind this economic principle : when supply increase, price decrease, and if that continues recession starts.
09-07-2018
Der_Ryan_M

Maybe they are too far from the next star. They have to be 0.2 points before the next star to appear in nego lists that late in the season, because they are a lot of nego players (old ones etc.) "blocking the nego lists".
09-07-2018
khris

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

hmm, maybe it was the "Friendlies" effect ;)
lol
We 'll see the new season.

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

Maybe they are too far from the next star. They have to be 0.2 points before the next star to appear in nego lists that late in the season, because they are a lot of nego players (old ones etc.) "blocking the nego lists".

You see what I asked @Nik? xDDD the why of da quastion, 1% entirely or 0,2 lol
09-07-2018
nikolgiorgos

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Originally Posted by khris

You see what I asked @Nik? xDDD the why of da quastion, 1% entirely or 0,2 lol

I had sometimes offers for players with 58% quality (98% for the list). I guess because that time there weren't many 99% players.
It is one of the unanswered questions of TE.
How many possible managers/buyers exist ? (for my player)
How many of them can see my player ?
Maybe there are some small bags of 99% players and small bags of buyers which rotate every few days.
My "bag" of buyers was always poor (I mean same server and near levels).
09-07-2018
Der_Ryan_M

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I had sometimes offers for players with 58% quality (98% for the list). I guess because that time there weren't many 99% players.
It is one of the unanswered questions of TE.
How many possible managers/buyers exist ? (for my player)
How many of them can see my player ?
Maybe there are some small bags of 99% players and small bags of buyers which rotate every few days.
My "bag" of buyers was always poor (I mean same server and near levels).

You're right but generally speaking, more managers buy players via negos in the first days of the season. Thats why you sometimes sell 58% players there, it happened to me as well.
But after a few days the demand is not so high anymore and players stack up in negos. But the nearer you train your player on the next star, the better is the chance he appears on the list for some people. Thats my experience anyways.
09-07-2018
khris

Is it posible that the list needs a min of players? .... and have a max.¿? .... so it can allow 98%s if not enough 99''s ¿?

There should be some parameters that we miss maybe....
09-07-2018
Gabez Teh

I suggest bigger pool for list and cross negotations through servers***. That would be raising effect and would juicing up the business. :)

***In your case all level53 managers (in the world) could see your 3* players as 5* :)
09-08-2018
nikolgiorgos

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But after a few days the demand is not so high anymore and players stack up in negos.

yes, that's why I wrote post #8

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Is it posible that the list needs a min of players? .... and have a max.¿? .... so it can allow 98%s if not enough 99''s ¿?
There should be some parameters that we miss maybe....

Yes, that's why I said about unanswered questions.
Maybe a scenario could be that a 78% is in the list cause of lack of many players and later if there are new 99% players, the 98% player will stay out.
Who knows

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I suggest bigger pool for list and cross negotations through servers*

I think there are more players from our server but for some reason we can't see them.
One way to increase the pool, is to search nego players (as scouts too or market) for specific zones.
For example I 'm searching for Defenders , Def/midf, Attackers, Attack/AM ...