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Originally Posted by Siddas
Positive: Top 100 were slowed down some this weekend. #100 jumped from 1620 to 1708 points. The points of the #100 holder had been jumping at a rate of roughly 96 - 98 points/weekend. So progress made on that regard for now.
Negative: My association tournament consisted of one 7* (120 - 121% average) and two 5* associations. None of these associations exploited. The 5* groups lost 1-34 and 4-31 on Sunday.
* I would have preferred an all vs. all setup for association. But auto-adjust the quality of all teams to a fair number. For example, all teams above 120% are adjusted to 120% for association tournaments (maybe 100 - 110% would be better due to risk of encouraging tanking). It's just, although the update is helping snuff out exploits, those that play at a 5* average play against a lower quality of competition, so associations is punishing those that invest time and/or cash in there squads.
We're going to go through the data from this weekend's tournament and learn more to see if further tweaks need to occur. Please keep the feedback from your groups coming.
Can't you just revert all back to TE 2017, when game was working as intended?
Keep looking at the data because the draw has screwed us this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
An association fighting to retain platinum gets drawn with 2 others who are guaranteed platinum regardless of results, and, and an association pushing for a spot in the top 10 of the rankings!!??
Associations sucks! And it has done for a long, long time.
Feedback- since the "Fair Draw Update " " " we are getting +1 star association and no fair draw at all. Earlier it wasn't this bad but immediately after the update we get stronger opponents.
Having + 1 star FA group is not new ... i think the last update has nothing to do with this .Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
When the draw is made , there is 4 FA group and sometimes there is not enough FA group with same average to complete a group of 4 FA group , so the engine need to put a + 1 star association in the draw ...
I get this. The only thing is that I have got this issue consecutively after the update. Earlier we had no such issue at least not this consecutively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz
Maybe it is coincidence. Don't know. Hopefully get better draw next time.
How many stars is your FA group when all the members put their stronger players on the pitch ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
5 stars. We are facing 6 star opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz
One of the 4 opponents is 6 stars.
Hunter, same thing was occurring in the last 3 tournaments my association played in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
2nd weekend:
One 7*, one 6* and two 5* associations
3rd weekend
One 6*, three 5* (One of the 5* manipulated the draw with 1* teams, and after the upgrade were equal to the 6* in average quality)
4th weekend
Two 6* (my assoc = 117%), two 5* (Same 5* we played the weekend before, and they again upgraded to being equal to the 6* non manipulators)
This weekend
Things look normal.
The impression I got was that any quality below X (maybe 80%) was being excluded from the calculation for the draw. All 5* groups we encountered had teams that were below 5* average. That's why I think it might have been taking the average of only teams above a certain unknown %.
I can only guess this update was designed to force these lower quality inactive groups to play up as a means of minimizing the effectiveness of sandbagging in associations. Sandbagging means to purposely play at lower quality (such as 5* quality average), to get grouped into a pool of potential opponents that is more likely to lose 0-36 than those in other pools.
This would mean that they've listened to my source of knowledge... /o/ \o\ /o/ \o\ \o/Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel
The coach had 26% before the federation. After the withdrawal, the transfer increased to 96%. I have 66%. you need to edit.
EDIT; and result 16-1, do you think is fair? platinum tournament
2 Questions.
First is, why are my players ranked with 0,0?
Second is why game engine works different in FA matches compared to other competitions?
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Because you did the substitution of both players before the 20'Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoIzMase
and 2, think that is a different feature, with it's own algorithm as the events and NT.
I didn't substitute anyone before 20th minute, one was sent off in 9th and other was substituted in 21st. I had player sent off early in the game before too, but he never got rating 0.0.
1. I have same experience as Khris for your first question.
2. FA engine is the same as the engine for the other competitions, the feel of it being different is an illusion. I am in the current world #100 assoc as well (granted will be out of the top 100 in 1 hour so if you want proof, only one hour to get it ;) ).
What's happening is the gaming meta changes from server to server. One server has defense - long - counter on as most common system. Another server level has a most common system of attack - short - trap on. Most teams in league are not flexible. But in association, we encounter teams from several different servers so we are playing against different systems than what we are used. If not flexible tactically, in a game against quality competition we will have problems.
yes, players that only care about asso games can tank with their 2 star players in all other competitions, and get easy asso match ups. that's how I ended up facing someone nearly 40% higher in this weekends asso final, completely spoils the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by jcohen42
This week draw was even harder.
I was in a 5 star association (all members are quite well balanced so we don't have any 7/8/9 star team).
Opponents- one 5 star, one 6 stars, one 7 stars.
Fair draw, huh?
I doubt that, tanking is expensive you know. I tanked last season and I can tell you that blues do not come cheap. Its really hard to tank all week and win a good manager in the FAs. And to repeat that for more than a season will become expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by stra
Why would someone only care about associate games though? That seems backwards to me. Associations give so little rewards, you just get 5/5/5 red/blue/green if your FA wins the tournament. But you still get 4/4/4, 3/3/3, or even 2/2/2 if you come in last. It's not a big difference. Sure you get some tokens at the end of the season based on where the FA finishes, but if you're not even using your "real team" in league/cup/champions league then what do you need tokens for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reece p FC
It seems pointless to only play this game for FA. FA is just there for some minor rewards to help your team play in real competitions throughout the season. lol
to sell his group for real money ? :rolleyes:Quote:
Why would someone only care about associate games though?
To any admins, developers etc. Can I suggest a change in the Association matchups as cheating/tanking is still going on? See attached pic. This guy beat me 6-2 and 6-1 then suddenly after the games are finished he changes his team so that it’s rated as 1%. Why not base the matchups on the average rating of a clubs strongest XI players?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e38e7e767e.jpg
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Or base the matchups on the quality of the players used in Association matches. They've proven they can do it for all matches, why not just do it for Association only?
Something needs to be done. Can anyone explain how this is fair? Look at the difference in quality!! How is the game assisting the tanking here? I can’t understand how they are getting away with it, if anyone can explain how they are doing it, I’d be interested to understand!! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...24dcfbcf43.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d02e799d28.jpg
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With platinum group, gold1 or gold compare 3 groups has been a terrific innovation! congratulations
if this is not a bug - it's just the death of the most interesting part of the game - associations. the only place where there is still competition with other managers. it remains only to completely disable the training system.....Quote:
Originally Posted by iMustafa
I am sure that this is bug
maybe, but.... bugs themselves do not arise, or it is not taken into account in the design conditions (separate divisions), or the code is so confusing that in the process of correction/change/add functionality (eg albums from 9 to 15 January) accidentally spoiled the lot associations. here we can only guess what happened-no one will tell us. and for 10 tokens to the victims most likely Nordeus will not give (now the support is very stingy)Quote:
Originally Posted by po_zdrach
Same here. Our platinum assoc meets one Gold 3 and two Gold 2 teams.
This could be the new t11,i like it lol
This is not a bug guys( we could say that if happen to 1 or 2 , but all asso...) i think is a new system ( another of their " ghost update " maybe)
No, this is defenetly a bug.
We are not intended to play against others divisions as ours.
It has already happened one time ( multi-divisions mixed together), maybe 2 or 3 years ago.
Hi everyone,
Just posted into the Bugs section, but due to a technical issue, tournament draws were made across divisions. Due to fixtures already having been scheduled, we won't be able to re-draw the tournament for this weekend. :(
Very sorry about this. We're digging into it now.
make the association available before level 4Quote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
If anything, they should have different tiers of associations; a beginners tier that starts at level 4 and an experienced tier that starts at level 10. Things should be harder for exploiting, not easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abhi
keep it that way it isQuote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
water will find its level
Just check top 1 "Top VI" association, until that association(or such) will exist, you are not doing a great job.
5 teams with clear tanking, not even cup playing, you are just rewarding them with 100 gold each week. And you are teling us somethign about changes ? pff..
I think the live assistant manger should be maintain... And even if it should be removed, it should be that when a player reaches a certain level in the game then it is removed... Because the live assistant manager helps amateur players.
Does anyone know if this change is effective?Quote:
Originally Posted by SausyFC
