Help! My 6-stars 18yo striker is super slow at training

Hi! I just bought a new 18yo striker (6 stars). I assigned him a new special ability (1-on-1 scoring).

He is now super slow at training it. I've both tried defensive-hard and attacking-hard trainings.

I now stopped the training of the special ability. Since I did that, my player did not gain any single ability point from the last 3 games it played.

Is it normal? Am I doing something wrong?

Thank you in advance.

Just have a look here https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...-trainers.html

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Originally Posted by LOS ABRANTES FC

Just have a look here https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...-trainers.html

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Thank you. I read the post, and yet I did not find any answer. My player's value/wage ratio is similar to that of my other young players who train much faster than him.

Is it normal that once a player is learning a special ability his rate of training points gained slows down a lot?

Only train SA on 5* or lower, it's just not really worth the amount of Greens needed (unless you have hundreds and hundreds to spare) to start SA training on a 6* player.

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Originally Posted by lucad88

Hi! I just bought a new 18yo striker (6 stars). I assigned him a new special ability (1-on-1 scoring).

He is now super slow at training it. I've both tried defensive-hard and attacking-hard trainings.

I now stopped the training of the special ability. Since I did that, my player did not gain any single ability point from the last 3 games it played.

Is it normal? Am I doing something wrong?

Thank you in advance.

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From my observations, 1 SA point = 16-18% training for an 18-year-old. Training type doesn't matter.
For a 40 point SA, you should be looking at spending around 50-55 greens.

However, I've heard of veteran players saying that there are players that are super fast trainers and slow trainers.

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Originally Posted by lucad88

Thank you. I read the post, and yet I did not find any answer. My player's value/wage ratio is similar to that of my other young players who train much faster than him.

Is it normal that once a player is learning a special ability his rate of training points gained slows down a lot?

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Can you post the stats, value of the players and inform which drill you're using? Training a skill wouldn't affect the training speed.

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Originally Posted by pele

From my observations, 1 SA point = 16-18% training for an 18-year-old. Training type doesn't matter.
For a 40 point SA, you should be looking at spending around 50-55 greens.

However, I've heard of veteran players saying that there are players that are super fast trainers and slow trainers.

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Yep.more than 35 greens to gain a 40 point SA for an 18 year old and you got yourself a donkey

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Originally Posted by LOS ABRANTES FC

Can you post the stats, value of the players and inform which drill you're using? Training a skill wouldn't affect the training speed.

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Thank you.

This is the player.

I've tried different configurations of training - 3 different defense drills: no effect. 3 different attack drills: no effect. 6 mixed drills: no effect.

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Originally Posted by gogs67

Only train SA on 5* or lower, it's just not really worth the amount of Greens needed (unless you have hundreds and hundreds to spare) to start SA training on a 6* player.

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I'm not using any greens - just the normal training they receive from games and some training between games to "burn" the extra condition left.

What I don't understand is that other young players of mine routinely get +3-6% to their abilities after each game in which they are playing, whereas this one does not get any ability point even if I pause the Special Ability training.

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Originally Posted by lucad88

Thank you.

This is the player.

I've tried different configurations of training - 3 different defense drills: no effect. 3 different attack drills: no effect. 6 mixed drills: no effect.

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Luca, this player is far from being a fast trainer. At your level a fast trainer is worth between 5,5 ML and 6 ML.
Look at post 579 of the thread i've linked before.
My suggestion is sell and buy another one more expensive...

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Originally Posted by lucad88

I'm not using any greens - just the normal training they receive from games and some training between games to "burn" the extra condition left.

What I don't understand is that other young players of mine routinely get +3-6% to their abilities after each game in which they are playing, whereas this one does not get any ability point even if I pause the Special Ability training.

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If you are only going for SA using 'normal' training then I'd stop with this guy. He is what is called a 'slow' trainer, not too common but there are enough out there to be annoying.
I train up 4 or 5 18yo's every season to 6* then just let the game keep them at that for about 3 seasons then they slow down. Every couple of seasons I'll get a donkey like yours that trains about 60% of the others. I'd keep him, forget about the SA and just let him gain naturally and sell at the end of the season, but maybe think about a replacement. Chances of getting 2 slow trainers in a row are pretty slim.

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Originally Posted by LOS ABRANTES FC

Luca, this player is far from being a fast trainer. At your level a fast trainer is worth between 5,5 ML and 6 ML.
Look at post 579 of the thread i've linked before.
My suggestion is sell and buy another one more expensive...

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Thank you so much!

I've read post 579 and now have a much better idea of the benchmark.
Also, I got very lucky in seasons 1 & 2, all players I bought were fast trainers so I just assumed that things changed over the last year… Now I understand much more. Thank you again.

I guess you just bought yourself a donkey...

I the transfer it is always a gamble if the player is well programmed and fast trainer..

Better sell him as high as possible and start over

How can you tell if a player is a fast trainer or not? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by TheWhiteKirby

How can you tell if a player is a fast trainer or not? Just curious.

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Read #2.

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Originally Posted by Hunter

Read #2.

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I tried, too confusing. I need a layman's term explanation or something lol

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Originally Posted by TheWhiteKirby

I tried, too confusing. I need a layman's term explanation or something lol

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#755, #756, #757
In Fast Trainers Guide. Hope it helps if you still don't understand then pm on fb.

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Originally Posted by Hunter

#755, #756, #757
In Fast Trainers Guide. Hope it helps if you still don't understand then pm on fb.

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Thank you, now i get it. I was getting confused with all the greens and blues talk

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