no, no way Bayern or Dortmund give away that lead. Real isnt that good (look at the results vs Dortmund in group stage), Barca is that good, with a Messi in top form on a good day they can win 4-0, but the probability is like 1%.

I wouldnt be suprised if the German teams win both away games, they just dominated the other games.


But i hope Germany doesnt win World Cup 2014, that would be the worst case scenario for me as an Austrian