That's it, end of the line. Game is dead.

As long as these programmed matches still exist, i'll be far away from this game. not worth it anymore.
And what i'm about to show you is only from today, cup finals.

First, and most clear fixed result:

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Left team: 85%, Right team: 111%. Left manager, NOT online, no supporters. I was online, 2 supporters.
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Left team got a red card in 26 minute and scored 2 more goals right after. i tried everything to come back, but the server already knew who must win this. Just look at the statistics, can't be more clear than that. All my shots were outside the goal while he scored 3 goals from 4 chances in total. typical troll.

Next one is strange by the quality difference between the two teams: 40%

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Left team: 88%, Right team: 129%. Left manager, NOT online, no supporters. Right manager online and 1 supporter.
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The game was MUCH BALANCED than the statistics shows, at some point i thought left team will win this... I struggled till the last minute against a mediocre team only because server is programmed this way. Just look at the quality of the players!!!

And that's why i was complaining so many times before. These kind of matches shouldn't exist. Especially in finals! You struggle all season to prepare your team and reach final stages and the game punishes you for that. And gives the trophy to a much weaker opponent who doesn't even shows at the match. Maybe he didn't make his trainings today, we'll never know. So why should we bother with this game anymore??? It became a game with 0 (ZERO) logic. Nothing makes sense anymore, anything is possible, no certain things whatsoever!!! That's not the game i started 5 years ago and for sure is not a game i want to play anymore. I stayed more that i should anyway, i said "i'll stop playing this sh*t" a year ago... It was fun, first period, now it's not fun anymore, it's pathetic and annoying. And all those fixed results - i just don't understand - why? Why would you do that intentionally to this game? What is the reason? To annoy active managers who actually gives a f*ck about this game... Sad. Very sad...

And another one just ended:

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Left team: 81%, Right team 101%
Same scenario: Left manager not online, right manager online and 1 supporter.
This is a pattern, this is SO CLEAR and so lame at the same time..(swear edited by nik)...come on, they deserve it!!!

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Originally Posted by funker

As long as these programmed matches still exist, i'll be far away from this game. not worth it anymore.
And what i'm about to show you is only from today, cup finals.

First, and most clear fixed result:

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Left team: 85%, Right team: 111%. Left manager, NOT online, no supporters. I was online, 2 supporters.
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Left team got a red card in 26 minute and scored 2 more goals right after. i tried everything to come back, but the server already knew who must win this. Just look at the statistics, can't be more clear than that. All my shots were outside the goal while he scored 3 goals from 4 chances in total. typical troll.

Next one is strange by the quality difference between the two teams: 40%

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Left team: 88%, Right team: 129%. Left manager, NOT online, no supporters. Right manager online and 1 supporter.
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The game was MUCH BALANCED than the statistics shows, at some point i thought left team will win this... I struggled till the last minute against a mediocre team only because server is programmed this way. Just look at the quality of the players!!!

And that's why i was complaining so many times before. These kind of matches shouldn't exist. Especially in finals! You struggle all season to prepare your team and reach final stages and the game punishes you for that. And gives the trophy to a much weaker opponent who doesn't even shows at the match. Maybe he didn't make his trainings today, we'll never know. So why should we bother with this game anymore??? It became a game with 0 (ZERO) logic. Nothing makes sense anymore, anything is possible, no certain things whatsoever!!! That's not the game i started 5 years ago and for sure is not a game i want to play anymore. I stayed more that i should anyway, i said "i'll stop playing this sh*t" a year ago... It was fun, first period, now it's not fun anymore, it's pathetic and annoying. And all those fixed results - i just don't understand - why? Why would you do that intentionally to this game? What is the reason? To annoy active managers who actually gives a f*ck about this game... Sad. Very sad...

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You sure there were no mutants?

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Originally Posted by Conrad Bekker

You sure there were no mutants?

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so if you have mutants you should lose? even if you're 45% better? it's like Barcelona losing every season the cup final against Albacete... you think those results are normal?

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so if you have mutants you should lose? even if you're 45% better? it's like Barcelona losing every season the cup final against Albacete... you think those results are normal?

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45% dont say anything, if he has mutants with over 300% skills you still loose.. so check his players and look if the players are above 300%

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Luca against rapid - 3st against 1 dc but anyway :)

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45% dont say anything, if he has mutants with over 300% skills you still loose.. so check his players and look if the players are above 300%

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I also lost a match to a -45% team. He had no mutants.
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i thought you said the better team had mutants. no, he had no mutants. none of the weaker teams had no mutants. or at least semi-mutants. only ordinary flat players...

I think cup finals usually are troll results in my opinion. So many times I've been the high rated team yet lost the final. However, yesterday I was rated 119% and my cup final opponent was rated 138% (he was a level higher than me though). I won 4-0. Not really fair but I deserve it after all the other finals I've been trolled in.

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After playing this game every day for 3 years I thought I will at least miss it. But hobestly it feels like a weight is lifted from me. I just come to the forum and read posts from time to time and it makes me realize even more that I never want to play this game again. It is indeed sad because TE has all the potential to be a great game. We all fell in love eith it for a reason. Sadly the only one who does not understand this is Nordi.

unfortunately the current situation with trolls is really sad - almost all the members of our FA decided to stop playing the game because of trolls - in FA we can't get out 100 trophy (still 99 for the last 5 weeks). As a result 5 weeks ago we had only 9 points from top 100 and now it is 150+ points as each week the game trolls us in semifinal against not active FAs with the inactive managers who doesn't visit at all their matches. And the same stands in ordinary competitions when yesterday 3 of them lost their finals to much weaker inactive opponents. This must be changed or at least returned to previous condition. Otherwise the game will lose all its members

One of my other accounts (only 80% quality) also made it to cup final and lost 1-0 vs 53% quality inactive team... It was on only on 8% bonuses yesterday, still pretty ridiculous...

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One of my other accounts (only 80% quality) also made it to cup final and lost 1-0 vs 53% quality inactive team... It was on only on 8% bonuses yesterday, still pretty ridiculous...

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why do you think i made this thread? this is how cup finals are programmed, and not since now, since many months... this is not normal, in ch league semi-finals same scores happened: 3-1, 1-0 in both semis :))))))) it's everything so obvious!!! they are sh*tting us and laugh at our faces. no way, that's enough!

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Luca against rapid - 3st against 1 dc but anyway :)

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You don't defend 3 ST with 3 DC, that is suicide...

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You don't defend 3 ST with 3 DC, that is suicide...

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god i wish you all saw the match, so don't comment anymore about tactics... he had 4 animations all match, scored 3 goals. i had 71% possession and all the remaining chances, every single one missed. (and ffs it was 85 vs 111%, you tell me that if a 2* abandoned team plays with 3 strikers and i defend my 120% with 1 dc i should lose??? ffs be real). TACTICS/ARROWS/NOTHING matters when game decides you to lose. end of story

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god i wish you all saw the match, so don't comment anymore about tactics... he had 4 animations all match, scored 3 goals. i had 71% possession and all the remaining chances, every single one missed. (and ffs it was 85 vs 111%, you tell me that if a 2* abandoned team plays with 3 strikers and i defend my 120% with 1 dc i should lose??? ffs be real). TACTICS/ARROWS/NOTHING matters when game decides you to lose. end of story

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That was not answer to you...

The game is controlled by the server's and stupid ancient time simulator's!!!

I tried everything possible and I always come short with some crazy luck and server's helping out to decide the outcome!
How can I lose at home with me present and my home attendance to full capacity and I made some change's during the live game and they decide to help the inactive manager offline to win?
And they come back with bull**** stories???

No wonder people are quitting the game daily!

I was in same boat ,nearly quit game then decided to quit asso team and concentrate on domestic fixtures and enjoying it a bit more.

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I was in same boat ,nearly quit game then decided to quit asso team and concentrate on domestic fixtures and enjoying it a bit more.

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i just use asso as extra green farm with chance of extra token and dont worry if i lose

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god i wish you all saw the match, so don't comment anymore about tactics... he had 4 animations all match, scored 3 goals. i had 71% possession and all the remaining chances, every single one missed. (and ffs it was 85 vs 111%, you tell me that if a 2* abandoned team plays with 3 strikers and i defend my 120% with 1 dc i should lose??? ffs be real). TACTICS/ARROWS/NOTHING matters when game decides you to lose. end of story

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I did not face a "troll" result in 3 seasons. I won 49 out of 49 this one and I do not think tomorrow's will be any different. You should start thinking about what you are doing instead of blaming the game. One thing is for sure broken, it's the tactic aspect of the game. I just do not care about it whatsoever any more. If things go wrong, change something but be sure of one thing; the game did "decide" you were going to lose. You lose and that's it. It happened to me too against good oppo.

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I did not face a "troll" result in 3 seasons. I won 49 out of 49 this one and I do not think tomorrow's will be any different. You should start thinking about what you are doing instead of blaming the game. One thing is for sure broken, it's the tactic aspect of the game. I just do not care about it whatsoever any more. If things go wrong, change something but be sure of one thing; the game did "decide" you were going to lose. You lose and that's it. It happened to me too against good oppo.

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yes but how easy are the teams on your server,until such bad results happen to you your result have no bearing on other players servers

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yes but how easy are the teams on your server,until such bad results happen to you your result have no bearing on other players servers

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"troll" result is when you 're playing vs easy teams, lower q, not better than you :p

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"troll" result is when you 're playing vs easy teams, lower q, not better than you :p

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yes i know that i'm on about the quality of teams hes playing to have 49 game winning run

Well if in real football, like in any league or competition, the predicted winnen also wins the game, then you don't have to play football no more...

Strange and suprising results do ooccur in any sport, so in that this game is realistic in a way too. I understand the dissapointment when it overcomes me or someone else when my team has better stats overall, still Barcelona, Real Madrd or any other topteam loses from time to time too against less starteams

It just happens

Damm bro.. what a bull**** result🤦*♂️🤦*♂️

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Well if in real football, like in any league or competition, the predicted winnen also wins the game, then you don't have to play football no more...

Strange and suprising results do ooccur in any sport, so in that this game is realistic in a way too. I understand the dissapointment when it overcomes me or someone else when my team has better stats overall, still Barcelona, Real Madrd or any other topteam loses from time to time too against less starteams

It just happens

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I've heard this argument many times - it makes no sense at all.

#1 When teams lose to lesser opponents in real life it because the lesser team got their tactics right - defensively solid, exploited their opponent's weaknesses etc. Ajax did not beat Real Madrid by NOT training and leaving their team without a manager on the sidelines.

#2 THIS IS NOT REAL FOOTBALL it's a videogame. You should be rewarded for the effort you put in. If you played a fighting game and you're told that regardless of what you do there is a 10% chance that you're going to lose, would you argue that that's okay because everyone loses a fight sometimes in real life?

I've never complained about losing a match to active managers, regardless of their teams' quality, but troll results should NEVER be defended.

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I've heard this argument many times - it makes no sense at all.

#1 When teams lose to lesser opponents in real life it because the lesser team got their tactics right - defensively solid, exploited their opponent's weaknesses etc. Ajax did not beat Real Madrid by NOT training and leaving their team without a manager on the sidelines.

#2 THIS IS NOT REAL FOOTBALL it's a videogame. You should be rewarded for the effort you put in. If you played a fighting game and you're told that regardless of what you do there is a 10% chance that you're going to lose, would you argue that that's okay because everyone loses a fight sometimes in real life?

I've never complained about losing a match to active managers, regardless of their teams' quality, but troll results should NEVER be defended.

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you're absolutely right, i said it myself many times... but they just don't understand... almost everybody in here is defending this broken game by means i just don't understand... i'm done arguing on this subject, i said what i had to say... they can do whatever they want

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I've heard this argument many times - it makes no sense at all.

#1 When teams lose to lesser opponents in real life it because the lesser team got their tactics right - defensively solid, exploited their opponent's weaknesses etc. Ajax did not beat Real Madrid by NOT training and leaving their team without a manager on the sidelines.

#2 THIS IS NOT REAL FOOTBALL it's a videogame. You should be rewarded for the effort you put in. If you played a fighting game and you're told that regardless of what you do there is a 10% chance that you're going to lose, would you argue that that's okay because everyone loses a fight sometimes in real life?

I've never complained about losing a match to active managers, regardless of their teams' quality, but troll results should NEVER be defended.

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Nice points mate, Can't say better! Totally agree with what you said

Somehow previously this game was more like a counter-tactics strategy game. So it was really interesting to play it. Each tactic had its own counter-tactic so some matches were really turned to the competition of changing the tactics. And sometimes it was up to 10-15 times during the match when you had to change for formation in order to face the new formation and orders of your rival. No it's gone and formations have little impact on game but random has been moved to the first place. That means that playing with exactly the same opponent with the same formation and orders you can easily win the first game 4-1 and then lose 1-7 in the second game

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I've heard this argument many times - it makes no sense at all.

#1 When teams lose to lesser opponents in real life it because the lesser team got their tactics right - defensively solid, exploited their opponent's weaknesses etc. Ajax did not beat Real Madrid by NOT training and leaving their team without a manager on the sidelines.

#2 THIS IS NOT REAL FOOTBALL it's a videogame. You should be rewarded for the effort you put in. If you played a fighting game and you're told that regardless of what you do there is a 10% chance that you're going to lose, would you argue that that's okay because everyone loses a fight sometimes in real life?

I've never complained about losing a match to active managers, regardless of their teams' quality, but troll results should NEVER be defended.

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I agree with #1, it's frustrating when there's no logic to why you lose certain games. The game would be improved if it was clearer why we lose certain games.

I don't agree with #2. I know you just used it as an example, but this isn't a fighting game where you expect a precise reaction for each action. As has been said a lot of times before, this is a game of chance. The actions you take and the efforts you put in should increase your chances of winning, not guarantee it. I think overall the game just about achieves that - I put in quite a lot of effort and I've won my league for the past 4 seasons.

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I agree with #1, it's frustrating when there's no logic to why you lose certain games. The game would be improved if it was clearer why we lose certain games.

I don't agree with #2. I know you just used it as an example, but this isn't a fighting game where you expect a precise reaction for each action. As has been said a lot of times before, this is a game of chance. The actions you take and the efforts you put in should increase your chances of winning, not guarantee it. I think overall the game just about achieves that - I put in quite a lot of effort and I've won my league for the past 4 seasons.

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Just to clarify, everything I said is meant to be taken in the context of the blurb at the bottom. Active managers should always have a chance of winning (and by extension, a chance of losing to other active managers) regardless of quality.

Point #2 was only in reference to "troll" results against inactive teams, where the game engine gives you a ridiculous result not because of the effort of your opponent, but just because it wants to.