RIP game engine

After many games, we all came to the conclusion that game tactics had very little effect on the game result nowadays. My only aim until recently was to focus on training, bonuses and of course, stars. But a simple experiment I made gave me the ultimate proof that there was no tacical aspect whatsoever in this game anymore: I played and won a game against my league's leader with all my players out of position! Not even a GK in the goal. On top of that, I shared the possession (50-50) when until recently it would have been a 80-20 to him. Did it again today but this time the oppo was 20% better and attending. He only won by 1 goal at the very last minute! Why the hell would I continue thinking of the better way to beat a certain tactic when you see things like this. Sad.

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Originally Posted by gizzmo

After many games, we all came to the conclusion that game tactics had very little effect on the game result nowadays. My only aim until recently was to focus on training, bonuses and of course, stars. But a simple experiment I made gave me the ultimate proof that there was no tacical aspect whatsoever in this game anymore: I played and won a game against my league's leader with all my players out of position! Not even a GK in the goal. On top of that, I shared the possession (50-50) when until recently it would have been a 80-20 to him. Did it again today but this time the oppo was 20% better and attending. He only won by 1 goal at the very last minute! Why the hell would I continue thinking of the better way to beat a certain tactic when you see things like this. Sad.

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Yes is dead bit since 6 month. Many people leaved the game and many others will follow. How a team can lose vs 30% weaker or more?
With 100% more only 2:0[emoji23]

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The game is in a bad state for sure, and those people responsible for this section there at Nordeus does not seem to bother despite so many complaints have been made here and there by many users.

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RIP game engine

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it's been a long time now :rolleyes:

Profit for them is king. I suspect the expert IT coder suddenly resigned and a profit driven amateur coder took over and mess up everything.

Gizzmo, the biggest question is why you even continue to support and play this game after having seen such a thing as you described?

It seems Nordeus been doing a lot of things on purpose rather than them being mistakes or bugs or flaws. The repetitive scam-like sales and event rewards, for example, is a good indication of their ways. No wonder why, despite so many complaints about so many bad things in this game from many users, most were never fixed or improved. Those negative things were probably put in on intention.

My decision has been made though. The negatives in the ongoing Unite Against Giant 2019 event were the missing drops for the container to overflow.

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Originally Posted by redsnoopy

Profit for them is king. I suspect the expert IT coder suddenly resigned and a profit driven amateur coder took over and mess up everything.

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Profit is the target for any business, but the difference is in how they make profits. Some do clean business while other do dirty business. Some satisfy demands, provide what their customers want, support them and encourage them, give good value for money, and most important do not play tricks or scams, but Nordeus does not fall in this category. The direction this company has taken is bad, but for them as long as they are making profits, it seems they will not bother.

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Originally Posted by Tactician

Profit is the target for any business, but the difference is in how they make profits. Some do clean business while other do dirty business. Some satisfy demands, provide what their customers want, support them and encourage them, give good value for money, and most important do not play tricks or scams, but Nordeus do not fall in this category. The direction this company has taken is bad, but for them as long as they making profits, it seems they will not bother.

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Exactly.
There are many ways to make profit
examples
- Sell scouts and recommended players really useful for the teams and make them play right, not giving 100-200 tokens and loosing from abandoned teams.
- Give the option to buy with money (1-2 $) old items from the shop or from older events.
- Make contests for active managers and do not promote all the time the super tankers.
When this event with the Giants started, I spent some extra tokens to play again with Red Bull at stage 1. It was only 1 token so I gave about 15 tokens to gather some points.
Now I am at stage 4, playing vs PSG. 2 members of our group have stopped playing after some troll results vs BVB.
To play again, now is 4 tokens (get out of here).
It's impossible to win the jersey or the emblem.
The prize player is a crap.
Unhappy players, unhappy company.

The marketing department really sucks. They have no idea, probably because none of them is playing TE seriously.

The design and mechanics department is worst.
We have asked so many times for some changes like to add extra positions for free kicks or corners.
I have a 17' screen and I need to sroll down to see the rates of the11 players .
The game engine sucks and it's full of bugs.

The only good thing the game has is a huge base of players from all over the world and the social media.
The facebook groups and this forum (Sausy and the mods, Khris, Nik ... are great)

I don't expect any improvements in the near future because there is no serious competion and there is no pressing for the staff except to bring more money.
What I expect is that some day they will sell the game to a more serious company that respects their customers.

It was a good game once.

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Originally Posted by Ποσιδονας

Exactly.
There are many ways to make profit
examples
- Sell scouts and recommended players really useful for the teams and make them play right, not giving 100-200 tokens and loosing from abandoned teams.
- Give the option to buy with money (1-2 $) old items from the shop or from older events.
- Make contests for active managers and do not promote all the time the super tankers.
When this event with the Giants started, I spent some extra tokens to play again with Red Bull at stage 1. It was only 1 token so I gave about 15 tokens to gather some points.
Now I am at stage 4, playing vs PSG. 2 members of our group have stopped playing after some troll results vs BVB.
To play again, now is 4 tokens (get out of here).
It's impossible to win the jersey or the emblem.
The prize player is a crap.
Unhappy players, unhappy company.

The marketing department really sucks. They have no idea, probably because none of them is playing TE seriously.

The design and mechanics department is worst.
We have asked so many times for some changes like to add extra positions for free kicks or corners.
I have a 17' screen and I need to sroll down to see the rates of the11 players .
The game engine sucks and it's full of bugs.

The only good thing the game has is a huge base of players from all over the world and the social media.
The facebook groups and this forum (Sausy and the mods, Khris, Nik ... are great)

I don't expect any improvements in the near future because there is no serious competion and there is no pressing for the staff except to bring more money.
What I expect is that some day they will sell the game to a more serious company that respects their customers.

It was a good game once.

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After all I seen, I think they do it on purpose. It cannot be that those people there are so unqualified or been doing such a poor job. Those scam sales they been repetitively advertising is a clear indication of the companies intention. Just think what else bad could there be in the game but that is not visible to you given that the fact that they openly show their intentions with those scam sales advertisement. No wonder why there so many people complaining about things occuring in this game where those things do not make any sense with respect to the area concerned which is football and management.

I spent more than 100 USD since I came back to the game. Below is the proof. I did not mind to spend and I did not regret I have spent so much too. But I can say that this game is a pain to play - finding the desirable players are very hard, events are inconvenient and demanding beyond acceptance for a game. Customers that bought a lot get penalised by the game as their teams are put against + level active teams in CL and Cup and they get to face tankers and other spenders in the league or events. So, they expect people to keep spending only to be put into further difficulty and inconvenience? Or maybe they want them to sell most of their high quality players and rebuy others every new season just to manipulate their ****ty draw system. Associations same ****, get put against tankers or teams having mutants. So, they promote and support tanking, manipulation, and so on, but they do not support their customers. So be it then but users should stop buying and let their company survive with leechers, tankers and so on. Add to that all the bad things you already said. So many people made complaints about many undesirable things in this game, but they did not fix or even improve them for years, but instead you keep seeing other undesirable things being added. Like I said in the event thread, enough is enough.


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Originally Posted by Tactician

After all I seen, I think they do it on purpose. It cannot be that those people there are so unqualified or been doing such a poor job. Those scam sales they been repetitively advertising is a clear indication of the companies intention. Just think what else bad could there be in the game but that is not visible to you given that the fact that they openly show their intentions with those scam sales advertisement. No wonder why there so many people complaining about things occuring in this game where those things do not make any sense with respect to the area concerned which is football and management.

I spent more than 100 USD since I came back to the game. Below is the proof. I did not mind to spend and I did not regret I have spent so much too. But I can say that this game is a pain to play - finding the desirable players are very hard, events are inconvenient and demanding beyond acceptance for a game. Customers that bought a lot get penalised by the game as their teams are put against + level active teams in CL and Cup and they get to face tankers and other spenders in the league or events. So, they expect people to keep spending only to be put into further difficulty and inconvenience? Or maybe they want them to sell most of their high quality players and rebuy others every new season just to manipulate their ****ty draw system. Associations same ****, get put against tankers or teams having mutants. So, they promote and support tanking, manipulation, and so on, but they do not support their customers. So be it then but users should stop buying and let their company survive with leechers, tankers and so on. Add to that all the bad things you already said. So many people made complaints about many undesirable things in this game, but they did not fix or even improve them for years, but instead you keep seeing other undesirable things being added. Like I said in the event thread, enough is enough.


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100% agree
And then you spend money for a good team and then you lose vs 30% weakers with a **** team bought for 20 Token. [emoji23]
I must cry when i saw how was the game engine Last year and how it works biw

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Ποσιδονας and Tactitician if the game is so bad in a world full of competition go find a better one?

Why people stay here because its the best game of its kind, end of story, so stop complaining enjoy it or leave it!

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

Ποσιδονας and Tactitician if the game is so bad in a world full of competition go find a better one?

Why people stay here because its the best game of its kind, end of story, so stop complaining enjoy it or leave it!

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How many weeks you Play the game? 90% of people who Play it for many years says that the engine is dead. If you doesnt know how was the game before or you ever Play with a low rated team better shut up.

We all still Play the game with hopeness that nordeus change it again

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

Ποσιδονας and Tactitician if the game is so bad in a world full of competition go find a better one?

Why people stay here because its the best game of its kind, end of story, so stop complaining enjoy it or leave it!

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We are here to discuss. If you have any problem with that you can report our posts or ignore. I am not even among the forum users that have been overcompaining here, and it is not you that will tell me to leave or anything else. Put that well in your head. Sure there are better games out there. I made my point here and will be leaving the game soon.

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Originally Posted by Tactician

We are here to discuss, if you have any problem with that you can report our posts or ignore. It is not you that will tell me to leave or anything else. Put that well in your head. Sure there are better games out there. I made my point here and will be leaving soon.

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You dont understand me.
I dont tell you to leave the game but dont tell us that the game is great now cause its not true. Maybe you are one of 20% Who tell this because you are low level Player and a newbi in the game or ever Play with low rated team

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Originally Posted by lento79

You dont understand me.
I dont tell you to leave the game but dont tell us that the g;)ame is great now cause its not true. Maybe you are one of 20% Who tell this because you are low level Player and a newbi in the game or ever Play with low rated team

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Wrong reply. That is me not Nuno, and the reply from me is to Nuno, not you. ;)

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Wrong reply. That is me not Nuno, and the reply from me is to Nuno, not you. ;)

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Oh yes sorry my friend

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Originally Posted by lento79

How many weeks you Play the game?

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Probably play it longer than you I've quit two times but now i find it more enjoyable than ever!

Sorry Tactician discussions don't start with "in some days i'll quit the game"... at least not the kind of constructive discussion, and yes I had you for a constructive guy!

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

Ποσιδονας and Tactitician if the game is so bad in a world full of competition go find a better one?

Why people stay here because its the best game of its kind, end of story, so stop complaining enjoy it or leave it!

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That's wrong perception but I guess your relation with the marketing is in the same level with nordeus department - lol

It's better to have unsatisfied customers who are moaning and complaining because with our arguments or actions we can reverse their opinions.
Be afraid of an unsatisfied customer who 's saying nothing. You 've lost him, he just left.

But yes, that's the major problem of the game, that there isn't any serious competitor who has that TE pack.
It's like TE is a FIAT car, good but with so many problems but the next choice is a LADA :p
That causes a motivation lack to the devs to fix and improve further the game.
Tactician, Posidonas and others do not only complain but they have speak for specific problems and made suggestions too.

Leave it. We should not be arguing against each other. I already had arguments with an association member because of that silly phase 4 to get the jersey, and this is what pissed me off more because the way Nordeus set it, it is very hard to complete for our team qualities but we are almost there. I have not slept since yesterday and I did all attempts I could. If I manage to get the jersey for this member, my job is done.

We all want a better game, but just that some do not realise the problems others face because they are not in the same boat. Your situation Nuno, especially that you are at L4 is not same as Nik or me or Posidonas , but despite that we all 3 play the game differently, we all agree to some extent that there are some common problems - one is the marketing (what demand there is, what users want and willing to buy but they do not provide us with, so what to buy), second is certain parts of the game engine (no, I am not even refering to troll and as far as is me or Nik, you can see we do not bother much about this because is not something new - was in this game since long and is rare but some people have been exagerating here and there and call many non-troll situations trolls) and third is the convenience and level of difficulty of the game especially during those events and they even worsen the situations with poorer rewards, but that Nordeus does not seem to care about those common issues and undesirables, but instead, they come up with new things and so-called measures that only make matters worst.

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Gizzmo, the biggest question is why you even continue to support and play this game after having seen such a thing as you described?

It seems Nordeus been doing a lot of things on purpose rather than them being mistakes or bugs or flaws. The repetitive scam-like sales and event rewards, for example, is a good indication of their ways. No wonder why, despite so many complaints about so many bad things in this game from many users, most were never fixed or improved. Those negative things were probably put in on intention.

My decision has been made though. The negatives in the ongoing Unite Against Giant 2019 event were the missing drops for the container to overflow.

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My support is really minimal. I have 1000s of tokens and play for the treble only, once every 3 seasons. So, as I said, I stick to the same tactic whatever the oppo is proposing. I farm greens and I train my players. What I do is nothing close to managing a foorball team. I am just taking advantage of the game features. But to be honest what I do is most like sticking to a bad habit than playing and having fun.

Some interesting points and good debate here gents. I can also see a difference in the game engine but also many other changes in the 6 years I’ve been playing. Yes, we could stop and leave or try other games but it’s not that easy. A good point made that it is difficult to just walk away and maybe leave behind a team that you have spent years nurturing. Something does need to change where the game engine is concerned, this is true and many of us are patiently waiting and hoping that will happen.

Well many here are complaining about genuine things, that's true to T11 there are lots of problems, but i wanted to gloat today about my achievement in the cup. Lvl27 quarters
Lost my first leg away, 4-1 forgot to train and forgot to do just about everything that a normal manager does, lost 4-1, But i never lost hope, why?, Because on my other account i lost 3-1 against a strong opponent, and i had a go at his defense in the second leg and won on penalties.
So keeping that in mind i rested some players to be at their peak, made some tactical changes moral boosted and almost forgot to train again, "nordeus stops me entering my squad at 5minutes WTF" and won 6-1 second leg, aggregate 7-5 shld have ended it normal regulation time but they scored on the 75 minutes with the score 3-1 and my players missed 2 sitters. So all is not lost bro, have a cool mind, have a go at their defense and with some luck you shall overcome.
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IMHO the problem here is simple. I think Nordeus with all the changes they made to the engine because of these monthly events +training, bonuses, morale etc. simply lost control ober the engine and they can't or simply don't know how to return back to the previous point when the engine really worked. As a result our well trained powerful teams keep losing to some weaker bots while bot teams have 100% result, especially in the league, winning most of the matches with 1 goal difference and scoring dirung the 89th or 90th min

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Lost my first leg away, 4-1 forgot to train and forgot to do just about everything that a normal manager does, lost 4-1, But i never lost hope, why?, Because on my other account i lost 3-1 against a strong

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You never lost hope because you knew nothing you did for training or preparation made any difference. You didn't lose the first leg because you didn't train because training and bonuses are just cosmetic, they never influence the results. You only lost the first game 4-1 because you called "heads" and the coin came up "tails". But fear not! It may be heads tomorrow!

After all this time the game faces the same problems lol. I really miss playing a good managing game, yet I still don't feel the need to install this game again. Oh well maybe by some miracle things will change, until then there is no reason for me to play an addictive but predictable game.

by the way hi guys, I hope you are doing well.:o

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No, nothing is changing the time of the year.
Get back for the new TE 2020.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

No, nothing is changing the time of the year.
Get back for the new TE 2020.

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I know my question sounds ridiculously stupid but since you are a forum moderator, do you know anything that will be added into to next year’s addition.


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After many games, we all came to the conclusion that game tactics had very little effect on the game result nowadays. My only aim until recently was to focus on training, bonuses and of course, stars. But a simple experiment I made gave me the ultimate proof that there was no tacical aspect whatsoever in this game anymore: I played and won a game against my league's leader with all my players out of position! Not even a GK in the goal. On top of that, I shared the possession (50-50) when until recently it would have been a 80-20 to him. Did it again today but this time the oppo was 20% better and attending. He only won by 1 goal at the very last minute! Why the hell would I continue thinking of the better way to beat a certain tactic when you see things like this. Sad.

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The game engine has been dead a very long time
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Originally Posted by Max McClean

I know my question sounds ridiculously stupid but since you are a forum moderator, do you know anything that will be added into to next year’s addition.

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I know something but cannot share it :o
* but it's not about the game engine

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

No, nothing is changing the time of the year.
Get back for the new TE 2020.

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Why ? "..back for new TE 2020.."
Something new in 2020 ??
New competition or just like an ordinary event?

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I know something but cannot share it :o
* but it's not about the game engine

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*"...but it's not about the game engine..."*

Its not the engine.... 🙄
Whether about 3D..?

Or Something new competition outside Regular? if true, then what about the FA?

Or, maybe the Regular competition interesting changes occur, such as prizes in the league, cup, champ/super.. The addition in the final league board.. ??

*Please Nick , give a litle for us guess* 🥺

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I know something but cannot share it :o
* but it's not about the game engine

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Ok


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I am just curious if at least things will change just a little bit, will the same player score the goals,will we always face the same teams, will changes during the game be useless and results more of a reflection of day to day trainings and active players being rewarded. 3d may be great but still not the point of these game. there are many things that TE can borrow from Pes manager mode. like formation when in possession and out of possession. players to join attack like full backs and defenders etc. Just a little more variety would be nice. At the end of the day I did not care about trebles it just became boring playing the same formation for months and then just changing lower rated players at the beginning of the season in that terrible transfer market.