Curse of the Cup

Can't seem to get past the Prelims. Never.

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This is what happened.

Weirdly, I went 0-1 up and then conceded 3 just like last season in the first leg of Qualifiers.

I tried 4-1-4-1 and it was 1-1 so I changed to 4-5-1V and immediately conceded 2 goals.

All his goals were assisted from his CB's and scored by his strikers.

No doubt he counter attacked at home and long balled it. His defence got 8's and the rest his squad got 7's.

I'm thinking of just going for it at home. 3-5-2 flat, attack, whole pitch press, mixed passing, offside, if I get desperate, 3-4-3. What you guys think?

Please help me shake this curse haha.

Never use 4-5-1 v against ANY 3 striker formation. I learned the hard way in the CL last season and in the league in level 5.

A 3-5-2v formation is more effective, as is a 3N-3MC-2W-2 formation

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Originally Posted by dv8r

Never use 4-5-1 v against ANY 3 striker formation. I learned the hard way in the CL last season and in the league in level 5.

A 3-5-2v formation is more effective, as is a 3N-3MC-2W-2 formation

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Noted. I'll remember that in future. Thank you very much. You've been a big help lately. I learn a lot from you, thank you. :D


I'm a big fan of v styles so I think I'll use that. Especially at home. What do you reckon if I play offside and whole press, aslong as my defenders are faster?

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Noted. I'll remember that in future. Thank you very much. You've been a big help lately. I learn a lot from you, thank you. :D


I'm a big fan of v styles so I think I'll use that. Especially at home. What do you reckon if I play offside and whole press, aslong as my defenders are faster?

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I'm still trying to understand the game engine and to be honest the offside trap is a load of rubbish. I tested it last season several times against noob teams with no offside trap and offside trap and I tended to concede more goals with offside trap... Against noob teams as well!

Whole pressing still needs testing, however I score more goals with an attacking mentality and own half pressing. It also reduces the chances of you being hit on the counter attacks, especially if you have red arrows on your defenders.

Ahhh, ok, I'll go own half. He countered me so the best thing to do is not make it easier for him.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Can't seem to get past the Prelims. Never.

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This is what happened.

Weirdly, I went 0-1 up and then conceded 3 just like last season in the first leg of Qualifiers.

I tried 4-1-4-1 and it was 1-1 so I changed to 4-5-1V and immediately conceded 2 goals.

All his goals were assisted from his CB's and scored by his strikers.

No doubt he counter attacked at home and long balled it. His defence got 8's and the rest his squad got 7's.

I'm thinking of just going for it at home. 3-5-2 flat, attack, whole pitch press, mixed passing, offside, if I get desperate, 3-4-3. What you guys think?

Please help me shake this curse haha.

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As @Dv8r already said. Also, if you have more then 1 good striker, why use only 1? I don't get it sometimes, and in this kind of tournaments when it is "win or get eliminated" situation you need goals! Play offensive and attack, attack and attack. Let your opponent defend or play "counter-attacks", let him think that you have the advantage.

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Originally Posted by Ljepoje

As @Dv8r already said. Also, if you have more then 1 good striker, why use only 1? I don't get it sometimes, and in this kind of tournaments when it is "win or get eliminated" situation you need goals! Play offensive and attack, attack and attack. Let your opponent defend or play "counter-attacks", let him think that you have the advantage.

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Because mate, my right winger is beastly, I prefer balanced tactics and from my experience 4-3-3 is an all or nothing tactic, big win or bigg loss. I tried to keep a tidy result so I could determine the second leg at home. Next time I'm going almost gung-ho. Going for the win.

I signed my first scout from the scout list today. I think he looks a decent defender.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

I signed my first scout from the scout list today. I think he looks a decent defender.

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He is not that bad, quite good. You could PT him to Q55 (7*) ?

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Originally Posted by Ljepoje

He is not that bad, quite good. You could PT him to Q55 (7*) ?

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I don't have the token to power train him :( He'd be godly if I did.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Because mate, my right winger is beastly, I prefer balanced tactics and from my experience 4-3-3 is an all or nothing tactic, big win or bigg loss. I tried to keep a tidy result so I could determine the second leg at home. Next time I'm going almost gung-ho. Going for the win.

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Yeah, but you could "motivate" the DL-ML and DR-MR and play "down-the-flanks" since he probably played "through the middle" and perhaps long balls? Also, you don't need that AMC since he don't play with a AMC. He becomes "useless" more or less. You could notice that during the game,especially if the commentary don't mention his name.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

I don't have the token to power train him :( He'd be godly if I did.

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Ah, then let him grow/develop naturally. Was he the "best" on the list?

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Originally Posted by Ljepoje

Yeah, but you could "motivate" the DL-ML and DR-MR and play "down-the-flanks" since he probably played "through the middle" and perhaps long balls? Also, you don't need that AMC since he don't play with a AMC. He becomes "useless" more or less. You could notice that during the game,especially if the commentary don't mention his name.

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I try not to motive DL and DR especially away as I concede more that way. My DMC was my only goal scorer.

I'll go 3-5-2 and push for a win at home and fingers crossed, I get through this cursed stage. :D

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Originally Posted by Ljepoje

Ah, then let him grow/develop naturally. Was he the "best" on the list?

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Yeah, I'll give him the odd green boost and push him harder. Yeah, wasn't much value, tbh.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

I try not to motive DL and DR especially away as I concede more that way. My DMC was my only goal scorer.

I'll go 3-5-2 and push for a win at home and fingers crossed, I get through this cursed stage. :D

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Ok, then go with the 3-5-2. Hopefully it goes well. Good luck! :)

Cheers, I'll let you know how it goes. :)

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Yeah, I'll give him the odd green boost and push him harder. Yeah, wasn't much value, tbh.

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Do that, a 7* is way better then a 6* ;)

Yeah, that's what I thought. Seems that no one got more then 1 good scout this season, and that all of the 3 updates were more or less bad.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Can't seem to get past the Prelims. Never.

Attachment 6303

This is what happened.

Weirdly, I went 0-1 up and then conceded 3 just like last season in the first leg of Qualifiers.

I tried 4-1-4-1 and it was 1-1 so I changed to 4-5-1V and immediately conceded 2 goals.

All his goals were assisted from his CB's and scored by his strikers.

No doubt he counter attacked at home and long balled it. His defence got 8's and the rest his squad got 7's.

I'm thinking of just going for it at home. 3-5-2 flat, attack, whole pitch press, mixed passing, offside, if I get desperate, 3-4-3. What you guys think?

Please help me shake this curse haha.

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try 4 4 2 :) I always win when i play with 4 4 2 against 4 3N 3

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Originally Posted by Ljepoje

Do that, a 7* is way better then a 6* ;)

Yeah, that's what I thought. Seems that no one got more then 1 good scout this season, and that all of the 3 updates were more or less bad.

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The scout list has been atrocious the past couple of weeks. Only good positions are 28 year olds lol.

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Originally Posted by nsretkovic

try 4 4 2 :) I always win when i play with 4 4 2 against 4 3N 3

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Not sure if 4-4-2 will dominate 4-3-3, it might backfire. I'll boss midfield and attack with 3-5-2.

OMG I just looked and it was my stinker of a midfielder who caused the first goal. He got booked 30 minutes in and goal time was 30 minutes. 4-5-4-5-5 <-- his form. He's a 5 star 19 year old 45Q. He's the worst player I've ever had. He's not playing again, he can rot on the bench.

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Originally Posted by Ljepoje

As @Dv8r already said. Also, if you have more then 1 good striker, why use only 1? I don't get it sometimes, and in this kind of tournaments when it is "win or get eliminated" situation you need goals! Play offensive and attack, attack and attack. Let your opponent defend or play "counter-attacks", let him think that you have the advantage.

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Nordeus, please, please, please schedule Ljepoje as my opponent in the Cup!!!!

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Originally Posted by Razz

Nordeus, please, please, please schedule Ljepoje as my opponent in the Cup!!!!

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The question is, can you handle "it" ? :rolleyes:

I love playing against kamikaze teams .. so, so much easier than playing against actual talented managers.

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Originally Posted by Razz

I love playing against kamikaze teams .. so, so much easier than playing against actual talented managers.

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I agree. That's why I'm gonna spare you the humiliation :)

I have never hade problems defending against 3 strikers with 4 in the back and a DCM.

4-1-4-1 would be my ideal formation but since I'm not using LM/RM I often end up playing with a 451V. Have I just been lucky? Ofcourse defending my own half and countering.

I beat 4-3-3 with 3-5-2 once.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

OMG I just looked and it was my stinker of a midfielder who caused the first goal. He got booked 30 minutes in and goal time was 30 minutes. 4-5-4-5-5 <-- his form. He's a 5 star 19 year old 45Q. He's the worst player I've ever had. He's not playing again, he can rot on the bench.

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I would sell him this weekend; he will go 25 rounds..

Classic formations are overpowered...

I may just sell him this weekend

I'll go with the 3-5-2 and try and boss the game.

Thanks guys.

i`m not superstitious but i think this thread fits well to me :D:D

I'm fine in the Champions League, it's just the Cup. I always get knocked out in the knock out stages lol.

It's because you are up against higher level managers. It's bascily impossible during a long cup run to manage your way to the final when you are always up against teams 2-3 times higher then you.

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Originally Posted by Kukilon

It's because you are up against higher level managers. It's bascily impossible during a long cup run to manage your way to the final when you are always up against teams 2-3 times higher then you.

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Yeah, true. It's just really frustrating when you can't get past the second stage every attempt lol.