[Official] Top Eleven Formation Changes

Hi Managers,

In order to improve the playing experience, we've made some changes to the possibility to save or use certain unrealistic football formations.

The yellow “!” box Attachment 138973 indicating irregular formation arrangement has now been removed and all the irregular formations will fit under illegal formation indicated by a red “!” box Attachment 138974. Any time a red “!” box appears on the left side of the screen, the formation cannot be saved or applied in Live Match and will need to be changed.

In case you had an irregular arrangement, your lineup has been adjusted to fit the legal formation requirements and all irregular formations saved in the squad setup have now been removed.

When setting up your formation please pay attention to the following rules and make sure to have:

• Exactly one player in GK position
• At least one and maximum 3 DCs
• Minimum 3 players in defence (DCs or DC + DL + DR)
• At least one player in central defending areas (DC, DMC)
• At least one player that is playing defensively in the middle (DMC or MC)
• Minimum 2 players in the middle (DMC, MC, AMC, ML, MR, AMR, AML)
• Maximum 3 players in MC and ST roles
• Maximum 2 players in DMC and AMC roles
• Maximum one player on all side roles (DL, ML, AML, DR, MR, AMR)
• At least one player in central midfield roles (DMC, MC, AMC)
• Balanced flanks (Number of players in roles DL, ML, AML and number of players in roles DR, MR, AMR)
• At least one player that is playing offensively in the middle (MC, AMC)
• At least one player in attacking areas (AML, AMC, AMR, ST)
• At least one player in attack (AMC, ST)
• At least one player on each side (one in DL, ML, AML, and one in DR, MR, AMR)

Check out your starting lineup in the Squad section to make sure your team is ready for the next match.

Best of luck in the upcoming fixtures!

Balanced flanks is the one that I don't always have.

Finally!

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We need more tactics in the game.

I tried loading a video for free tokens but the thing did not even show if this is how nordeus games are i will not waste time to report nordeus to the gaming association
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why can't we be allowed to put other players in different positions on fifa that is allowed
:mad:

The rule At least one player in central midfield roles (DMC, MC, AMC) is obsolete, since rules:
At least one player that is playing defensively in the middle (DMC or MC)
OR
At least one player that is playing offensively in the middle (MC, AMC) may apply.

Also the rule At least one player in attacking areas (AML, AMC, AMR, ST) is also obsolete because of the rule:
At least one player in attack (AMC, ST)
When the latter (blue color) satisfied, it also satisfies the first one (red color), making it obsolete.
If you have 1 AMC or 1 ST, then you also have at least one AML, AMC, AMR, ST.
But if you have 1 AML but no AMC, AMR, ST first rule is satisfied, but second is not.

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Originally Posted by Taliyah25

Hi Managers,

In order to improve the playing experience, we've made some changes to the possibility to save or use certain unrealistic football formations.

The yellow “!” box Attachment 138973 indicating irregular formation arrangement has now been removed and all the irregular formations will fit under illegal formation indicated by a red “!” box Attachment 138974. Any time a red “!” box appears on the left side of the screen, the formation cannot be saved or applied in Live Match and will need to be changed.

In case you had an irregular arrangement, your lineup has been adjusted to fit the legal formation requirements and all irregular formations saved in the squad setup have now been removed.

When setting up your formation please pay attention to the following rules and make sure to have:

• Exactly one player in GK position
• At least one and maximum 3 DCs
• Minimum 3 players in defence (DCs or DC + DL + DR)
• At least one player in central defending areas (DC, DMC)
• At least one player that is playing defensively in the middle (DMC or MC)
• Minimum 2 players in the middle (DMC, MC, AMC, ML, MR, AMR, AML)
• Maximum 3 players in MC and ST roles
• Maximum 2 players in DMC and AMC roles
• Maximum one player on all side roles (DL, ML, AML, DR, MR, AMR)
• At least one player in central midfield roles (DMC, MC, AMC)
• Balanced flanks (Number of players in roles DL, ML, AML and number of players in roles DR, MR, AMR)
• At least one player that is playing offensively in the middle (MC, AMC)
• At least one player in attacking areas (AML, AMC, AMR, ST)
• At least one player in attack (AMC, ST)
• At least one player on each side (one in DL, ML, AML, and one in DR, MR, AMR)

Check out your starting lineup in the Squad section to make sure your team is ready for the next match.

Best of luck in the upcoming fixtures!

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Originally Posted by crisgr

The rule At least one player in central midfield roles (DMC, MC, AMC) is obsolete, since rules:
At least one player that is playing defensively in the middle (DMC or MC)
OR
At least one player that is playing offensively in the middle (MC, AMC) may apply.

Also the rule At least one player in attacking areas (AML, AMC, AMR, ST) is also obsolete because of the rule:
At least one player in attack (AMC, ST)
When the latter (blue color) satisfied, it also satisfies the first one (red color), making it obsolete.
If you have 1 AMC or 1 ST, then you also have at least one AML, AMC, AMR, ST.
But if you have 1 AML but no AMC, AMR, ST first rule is satisfied, but second is not.

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So what? This could be one of the most useless explanation in forum history.

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Originally Posted by RaiKo

So what? This could be one of the most useless explanation in forum history.

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More rules add more complexity to managers.
So rules who are obsolete, in other words useless, should be omitted.
Things should be easier and more clear to users/managers when this is possible.

In addition, take this one:
Minimum 3 players in defence (DCs or DC + DL + DR)

It is not written clearly. The DC + DL + DR forces some managers to think that they shall use (besides 3 DCs) 1 DL, 1 DC and 1 DR as an alternative; they tend to believe that formation is legal only when you have either 3 DCs (DC - DC - DC) or 3 wide defenders (DL - DC - DR).
But you can have e.g. 2 DCs and 1 DR, that is (DC-DC-DR). This is okay.
Rule could have been: Minimum 3 players in defense (DC or DL or DR). Other rule prevents from having 2 DLs or 2 DRs, so in a simple manner manager knows that he is allowed to use the following: DL/DC/DR - DL/DC/DC - DC/DC/DC - DC/DC/DR as a minimum of course.

What is your point about keep going on about the "rule"? Come on, we are not in primary anymore.

I think this is because many managers who doesn't want to spend money on this are actually "tanking". Meaning that they intentionally put players in the wrong positions so it is more likely they will lose the games. Therefore they don't end up being promoted, so with the right training methods their team improve overtime.

Many times I was loading the videos just fine, they finished but right at the end when the reward should have been given there was a connection error.. if there was any errors obviously the video wouldn't even play to the end. Strange things happening :D

I can only agree with you, also 3D would be way better.

Yes, like mentioned above, the main idea could be that they wanted to prevent 'tanking' by use of 'illegal' formations. Well, still managers can use a ST as a GK. Or a GK as an AML. They may still tank, not? And playing around with the game engine is not the best method (although Nordeus do it).

But since they have decided to correct their policy on illegal formations, I wonder why haven't they launched a list with predefined formations, so users can pick what they want.
With rules being now as they recently changed, managers can still having the same formation (eg 4-4-2) but in the eye they may look quite different, depending on where the players are placed in their position area. Eg a DL can be up-left near DL/ML boundary line, or down-right on the borders with DC.
We may see legal formations but quite unusual if you look at them as a picture.
Maybe their next move should be to have certain places again, like it used to be before, for each position.

have to disagree with the last line. the players pitch position now gives more diverse role as it comes to tactical point of view and managers capability of reading the game play. the old box system limits game.

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Originally Posted by ayo

why can't we be allowed to put other players in different positions on fifa that is allowed
:mad:

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This is easy, because this is not FIFA. ;)

Good update. :)

Nice to see the old rules are back.

Good luck to all lazy tankers who don’t login daily. Expecting to see many unwanted surprise promotions lol

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Good luck to all lazy tankers who don’t login daily. Expecting to see many unwanted surprise promotions lol

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lol :rolleyes:

Balanced flanks (Number of players in roles DL, ML, AML and number of players in roles DR, MR, AMR)

What does that mean? Same number of players on both flanks? (DLs + MLs + AMLs = DRs + MRs + AMRs) Other? Because, I tried to set a formation of one left sided (DL) and 3 right sided (DR, MR, AMR) and it was legal. If this is the case, rule is obsolete, as a result of "At least one player on each side (one in DL, ML, AML, and one in DR, MR, AMR)" and "Maximum one player on all side roles (DL, ML, AML, DR, MR, AMR)".

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Originally Posted by Taliyah25

Hi Managers,

In order to improve the playing experience, we've made some changes to the possibility to save or use certain unrealistic football formations.

The yellow “!” box Attachment 138973 indicating irregular formation arrangement has now been removed and all the irregular formations will fit under illegal formation indicated by a red “!” box Attachment 138974. Any time a red “!” box appears on the left side of the screen, the formation cannot be saved or applied in Live Match and will need to be changed.

In case you had an irregular arrangement, your lineup has been adjusted to fit the legal formation requirements and all irregular formations saved in the squad setup have now been removed.

When setting up your formation please pay attention to the following rules and make sure to have:

• Exactly one player in GK position
• At least one and maximum 3 DCs
• Minimum 3 players in defence (DCs or DC + DL + DR)
• At least one player in central defending areas (DC, DMC)
• At least one player that is playing defensively in the middle (DMC or MC)
• Minimum 2 players in the middle (DMC, MC, AMC, ML, MR, AMR, AML)
• Maximum 3 players in MC and ST roles
• Maximum 2 players in DMC and AMC roles
• Maximum one player on all side roles (DL, ML, AML, DR, MR, AMR)
• At least one player in central midfield roles (DMC, MC, AMC)
• Balanced flanks (Number of players in roles DL, ML, AML and number of players in roles DR, MR, AMR)
• At least one player that is playing offensively in the middle (MC, AMC)
• At least one player in attacking areas (AML, AMC, AMR, ST)
• At least one player in attack (AMC, ST)
• At least one player on each side (one in DL, ML, AML, and one in DR, MR, AMR)

Check out your starting lineup in the Squad section to make sure your team is ready for the next match.

Best of luck in the upcoming fixtures!

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Good luck to all lazy tankers who don’t login daily. Expecting to see many unwanted surprise promotions lol

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;););)

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Originally Posted by hudai

have to disagree with the last line. the players pitch position now gives more diverse role as it comes to tactical point of view and managers capability of reading the game play. the old box system limits game.

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The last line has some hidden irony. Since, we can see some very strange formations in the eye which are valid, but quite strange. Test the differences on 4-4-2s.
Of course, you are right.
Next could be to make certain pitch positions for each role, but also add rules there, LOL. (Okay, please don't laugh)

Attachment 138975

This is still an acceptable formation despite these changes.????????

And this before I bother to play players out of position or play my weaker subs or reserves.

So please, please explain how this hinders "lazy" tankers?

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Originally Posted by Altiplano

Attachment 138975

This is still an acceptable formation despite these changes.????????

And this before I bother to play players out of position or play my weaker subs or reserves.

So please, please explain how this hinders "lazy" tankers?

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I was talking about the tankers who had their formations/lineups adjusted due to update and do not realise it as they have not logged in.
It should only hinder them this season if they do not log in for an extended period.

Yes, i get you. Looks like tanking is still an option but a little tougher since flanks now have someone. I believe even a gk or dc on the flank is better than none for TE

Most hated formation 4123 with AML and AMR! Animation puts them in middle of field and game looks like s..t! Second s..t formation is with no ST(aml,amc,amr). Thousands crapy formations so long

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Originally Posted by Fotonic

I can only agree with you, also 3D would be way better.

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Never. 3D is impossible

Lol 🤣🤣🤣

Impossible is nothing in Football! 😅😜💯

So, what happens if someone is playing with DL-DC-DR in the back line, without DMC and DC get a red card? Will engine adjust the formation, if manager is absent? :rolleyes:

In theory, you can play without gk and win a lot of matches but the problem is that you cant do this :P.
I encountered that weird formation (with some modification) which uploaded there Altiplano and that manager was first in league without any loss.

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf

So, what happens if someone is playing with DL-DC-DR in the back line, without DMC and DC get a red card? Will engine adjust the formation, if manager is absent? :rolleyes:

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Try it and see!

Off cause some rules must be respected as it's on real Football.
Many managers are not having any idea or philosophy of playing think that is horrible for me.
I would like to have a financial fair play to from the moment that the competition started.

Tankers or none, up to most, as you get back what they put in.

i love how this new formation changes thread managed to popped out newbies in the forum to post replies eventho they've join from 2013.
this is good! the forum was dead & nodeus never took our suggestion seriously because of the deadforum.
more posters, more comments, more suggestions, more complains can hopefully help nodeus to fix this game properly.
keep it coming guys! ;):o

You wanted to say fix the game in nordeus way;)

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Originally Posted by tomu741

You wanted to say fix the game in nordeus way;)

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I want to believe that Nodeus do listen/read to whatever we complaint/suggest in the socmed or in this forum.
Like my infamous Popup11 gif that quickly got thread closed by Khris.
But hey, they did lessen the popups & say that it is a bug, not a new feature :rolleyes:

This is all for many

What formation is the best agg 4:3;3dl DC DC dr lm mc mr smo Amr ST?

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