Is this game still fair? Opinions from those who play it 7 years

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10-07-2022
Baron Von Gorzien

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Is this game still fair? Opinions from those who play it 7 years

Hello everybody,
here season 87. I think I haven't won any league in the last 16/18, maybe 24 months.
I follow 70% of the games and my team's level is always around 115/118% at the end of the season.

How do you think a balanced tournament can be if there are these opponents? (see attachment)

By now this game has become a pure pay per win, not that it was not before ... But at least even for those who did not inject a lot of money in the game there was a chance to do well, if you followed the team every day like me.
Now it's practically impossible, the only thing one can do is watch others win. There is not fair competition.
I've always refused to tank, I don't want to win a year by being relegated the year before. It's unfair.
What rewards do those who qualify each year receive?
Why is it that in the end those who retreat and not those who move forward are rewarded?
From level 40 upwards the money is no longer useful, one must have other rewards, otherwise it's elementary that it makes no sense to qualify.
Update the game, change the rules, have at least the teams compete with each other with 150% and no longer with teams with 30,40% less, otherwise there will be only a few left to play.

Greetings
10-07-2022
onionjoe76

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The game is messed up now. All season I have dominated matches. Massive possession difference, sometimes double or triple the shots and so many matches drawn or lost.
My forwards are all well rated, but keep missing chance after chance after chance. I had a match yesterday where I had 27 shots and scored 1 time!
It's happened so many times, I frankly feel like it#s cost me not only the Super League but also the League. Can someone explain why this is happening??
In this example, my team was evenly matched with the opponent. (he was 125 to my 124.6) and 3 of his shots came from 80 mins onwards so really it was even more one sided. It's not just this one match, I reckon at least 10 matches this season I had absolutely dominated and ended up dropping points or losing cups. I really hope someone can explain why this is happening to me this season

edit - I lost this one 3-0 :-(.Attachment 140016
10-07-2022
Julandron

I think a lot of us feel the same way. I have played for 66 seasons and i would 100% agree with everything you guys are saying, but i don’t even think Nordeus knows what is going on or what they are actually doing.
Only a pay per play game, rewarding those who invest money.
I invest a lot of time, tokens, etc, but no money, and 100% feel the same way.
Nordeus has completely lost the plot on everything they are doing.
Matches are pre-determined, the draw frenzy red card scam, their explanations for special sponsor tasks are completely absurd (random tasks….. LOL), everything is so fixed, the “5 hatricks in league” task was a joke, i had at least 3 matches with 2 players scoring 2 goals, even 3 players scoring 2 goals, and of course in all the matches they missed easy opportunities to score a 3rd goal each. Clearly rigged and designed to go against us.
I am super tired of all this nonsense, and complete lack of customer support.
10-07-2022
onionjoe76

Must admit, I do usually pay for a couple of things. The monthly card and the special sponsor thing, but frankly the way things seem to be going I can see myself not paying anything anymore.
Like you say, some of the special sponsor tasks were crazy. "Score x goals with player over 150%"--- my best player is 134%, so know chance of ever even getting to that level without more investment. I've been playing since around 2013 and I honestly feel like giving up. It's a shame as I used to really enjoy playing but it does seem more and more like a "cash grab" :-(

Edit -- I've noticed too some crazy errors in player animations. 2 or 3 times now I have seen either my GK or the opponents GK turn and face the wrong way before the attacker even tries to shoot. WTF?!?!? lol
10-07-2022
Julandron

Yeah, i am also tired of the same animations every match, the stupid counter attacks “defused” or “halted” “in the nick of time”, the useless off-side replays, or the VAR type offside review, 40 yard pointless free kicks, spectacular saves from 2 star goalkeepers, half-time substitutions coming on in the 70th minute (like this happened again today), attackers running to goal with the ball and suddenly stopping and going backwards and losing the ball, an 8 star MC player with playstyle and special ability simply passing the ball to the opposition player right in front of him, and well, many many more things.
Who writes the code over there at Nordeus? Definitely not someone who has played football (soccer) or knows anything about the game.
10-08-2022
Baron Von Gorzien

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Originally Posted by onionjoe76

Must admit, I do usually pay for a couple of things. The monthly card and the special sponsor thing, but frankly the way things seem to be going I can see myself not paying anything anymore.
Like you say, some of the special sponsor tasks were crazy. "Score x goals with player over 150%"--- my best player is 134%, so know chance of ever even getting to that level without more investment. I've been playing since around 2013 and I honestly feel like giving up. It's a shame as I used to really enjoy playing but it does seem more and more like a "cash grab" :-(

Edit -- I've noticed too some crazy errors in player animations. 2 or 3 times now I have seen either my GK or the opponents GK turn and face the wrong way before the attacker even tries to shoot. WTF?!?!? lol

I also accept the fact of making an investment, like the the monthly card, 5 euros: you immediately earn 10 tokens, plus 3 tokens every day for a month = 100 tokens.
With 100 tokens I can make an important transfer campaign at the start of the next season and reach, at the end of the year, an average level of 115/118.
In reality, currently, it is also just insufficient and useless. Even spending real money.
How can I compete with someone who spends 400 tokens for a single player? Or who doesn't play with for 3 months, tanking and then every player has 150%?
So you are telling me that to really make competitive teams I have to tank and lose for months? What crap is this?

Again, really reward who actively participates, qualifies and levels up: with players? tokens?
With something truly rewarding instead of fake money, that at high levels do not count for anything since they all have banked billions.

For winning some trophies you hate to tank badly for month or inject hundreds of euros. Is still fair?

I have to admit that the only really realistic "thing" about this game is the disparity between who spends hundreds of real money and who doesn't, this is really identical to current football.
10-08-2022
onionjoe76

I have often wondered if there was some way Nordeus could split players of the game. Essentially in to two games. One for those who want to invest hundreds of euros/pounds/dollars and one for those who spend minimally (or not at all).
10-08-2022
KvG United

The only reason I still play the game is because I like training players. I don't like the associations anymore because we encounter better opponents every time. the prices are also meaningless. this applies to all events by the way. 3D is also starting to get boring as mentioned below. too little variation.

I think the game is going downhill fast. the frenzy event also made me less motivated. this shows that they are only interested in the money.
10-08-2022
onionjoe76

Yes, the association games are something of a lottery now. Last two seasons we have been with 5 points of promotion to Diamond. Then suddenly this season we end relegated from Platinum to Gold. My captain has a theory that you can tell how your season will go after the first weekend of association games. If you get matched against a team where everyone is considerably higher ratings that your team, the rest of the weekends will be similar. I am starting to think this is true. In all 16 matches, I don't think I once played someone who had a lower rating than me.

I agree about the Frenzy thing that has been mentioned. People say it is pure luck but I don't think it is (unless I am born unlucky). I have never been beyond lvl 6 on that game (i won't waste tokens trying to continue). Mostly I end up with a red card between lvl 2 and 4 :-(
10-09-2022
Liger

There’s a 25 percent chance of red card each time so law of averages says you will be eliminated at level 4.
10-09-2022
iansyorkcityfc3

every game is scripted its ridiculously obvious at times
10-09-2022
RaiKo

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My CL draw this season. Saved after the server maintenance for the new season was done.
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10-09-2022
Baron Von Gorzien

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21 day for training? Or 19 day? Why not? The season last only 28 day! Very useful!
Do you want a 1-day or 2-day workout? 550 tokens or € 5.49.

Seems fair to me. Right? Right???
10-09-2022
Lumic

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Originally Posted by onionjoe76

I have often wondered if there was some way Nordeus could split players of the game. Essentially in to two games. One for those who want to invest hundreds of euros/pounds/dollars and one for those who spend minimally (or not at all).

They actually do I think. If you are a stronger player by paying, you get in a league with others that are paying too. Just look up other leagues of your level. They te d to be of different levels alltogether.
10-09-2022
iansyorkcityfc3

tell me about it every side in my CL still has the same level from last season this must be a bug
10-09-2022
jarharnamme

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21 day for training? Or 19 day? Why not? The season last only 28 day! Very useful!
Do you want a 1-day or 2-day workout? 550 tokens or € 5.49.

Seems fair to me. Right? Right???

the player academy is a joke. my suggestion is to only use coach that's free or have shorter duration or that use small number of boosters and dont waste tokens for that.
10-09-2022
jarharnamme

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tell me about it every side in my CL still has the same level from last season this must be a bug

it's not a bug. u just finally reach the pinacle of your server. congrats for being the max level on your server.:rolleyes:
i've play this game for 130+ seasons. guess what my level is? lower than 110 and i've never finish outside of top8.
because my server dont have enough manager and teams to make enough league they decide to not level us up once in every 2months/seasons :mad:

they should've merge more servers or let the top10 to promote instead of punishing us the top8 every 2-3seasons.
i hate watching the newer teams skipping my level because nodeus dont know how to merge server again or make league like how they make division for association.
i actually bored and sick seeing same team every season now. i would love to be pair against other teams but nodeus just dont know how to solve this top of the server issue:mad:
10-10-2022
gogs67

Haha, this is about exactly what I've been thinking as well.
I'm on level 101, won over 100 trophies but don't think I've won a single thing for the last couple of years at least. No matter what I do I can't compete with token buyers.
I tried reducing the team % and that made no difference, still knocked out Cup first round against a far stronger team, and all that would happen in the league was that I'd be a 60% team in with 13 x 110% teams
So I tried getting a strong team, all that happened there was every other team in my league was still stronger than me
I haven't been promoted for 5 seasons now, had a great team last season (for me) of about 120% and still came bottom of my league.
Guess I'm still playing as I have a stash of tokens/greens etc from all these years but it's pretty pointless in any sense of competing now, I purely play out of habit.
Sad, as this was a really good game up to about level 70 or 80
10-10-2022
jarharnamme

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Originally Posted by gogs67

Haha, this is about exactly what I've been thinking as well.
I'm on level 101, won over 100 trophies but don't think I've won a single thing for the last couple of years at least. No matter what I do I can't compete with token buyers.
I tried reducing the team % and that made no difference, still knocked out Cup first round against a far stronger team, and all that would happen in the league was that I'd be a 60% team in with 13 x 110% teams
So I tried getting a strong team, all that happened there was every other team in my league was still stronger than me
I haven't been promoted for 5 seasons now, had a great team last season (for me) of about 120% and still came bottom of my league.
Guess I'm still playing as I have a stash of tokens/greens etc from all these years but it's pretty pointless in any sense of competing now, I purely play out of habit.
Sad, as this was a really good game up to about level 70 or 80

Yes. this is what i'm saying and i'm tired hearing some level50ish told me to sell players and keep % down.
They think everyone at level100+ didnt know that trick?
Either you faced the manipulators with wallets or dont sell and face wallets like p$g owners, with unlimited cash and tokens up their arses.
In the end i choose only sell unwanted players. No matter what i do i'll never get out of their shadows(CL and cup, but somehow manageable league)
Unless top11 do some server shuffles. if they merged i hope i get thrown into other mediocre players like me. and free from these dragon & whale wallets players