I've been poking around the forum and am i right in saying there are only 3 ways of winning the cup? or am i missing another possibility
1) be ultra lucky
2) mess up ur team at the end of the season and den rebuy at the start
3) power training
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I've been poking around the forum and am i right in saying there are only 3 ways of winning the cup? or am i missing another possibility
1) be ultra lucky
2) mess up ur team at the end of the season and den rebuy at the start
3) power training
The only real answer is 1. Just get lucky. 2 & 3 have not been proven to work. I've been playing for 11 seasons now, and have never been close to winning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiballz
Selling all players before the start of next season probably works but how easy will it be to get a good team ready for the CL and the League which actually means something? Sure you can try it if you have a team of aging loosers but otherwise I wouldn't go for it.
The cup would be nice but it gives less money and not worth the hassle.
More don't get unlucky than get lucky. This was my first season and I got to the semi-finals before losing to a bot team I was better than.
If you have a good team "6-7 star team" it will be nearly impossible to go far in the cup since the longer the tournament last the more your team will be at an disadvantage.
To have a good chance at winning the cup, you need a really rubbish team before the cup draws are made...And when I say really rubbish, I mean every player is 2* and 3*... then buy 5* players after the draw is made.
I believe it's from server to server, some of use have it tougher then others. And it becomes much harder for every level.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiballz
But I believe that the only "method" by winning the CUP is to invest, invest and hopefully you could reach a final and win it.
Sure, you could do as you say - begin with a crappy 2* or 3* squad and hopefully get a lucky draw among other crappy 2* or 3* teams. But, you will end up spending (invest in Tokens) one way or other if you want the "advantage" every manager is seeking.
Then again, whats the point of winning a trophy if your both Alpha & omega and there isn't any prestige (competition)? But of course, some of us prefer the easy way and quantity before quality.
At the end, it's a one man's choice :)
yes, i realise its hard but i just want at least 1 cup trophy lol.. and i've been planning for the past 3 seasons to get it in this season. I didnt do the making my team crap method as that would cost a bomb in tokens to recover from. I'm trying power training atm but i only have about 200 rests saved up over the past 3 seasons so can only get maybe half my team to scout and maybe a couple of world class players. might be able to get to the semis or so but i tink i can't handle players 3 levels above me who suddenly decide to invest
maybe a plan: save lots of tokens/green packs, then sell all players at the end of season, only keeping 3* fast trainers. After cup draw, buy a few scouts and 5* players (if realistic on your server), and train the now 2* fast trainers up. I was lucky, i got the cup in season 2 since I entered in the 2nd half of season 1 and got promoted with a rather crappy team, which improved quickly after I learned the ropes of the game. In season 3 my team was already so good it was hard to improve considerably at the beginning of the season.
i have to point out though that the buying ur team at the first day of the season only works for heavy token buyers. Considering i have a mere 85 tokens saved after THREE seasons, it is unlikely i can ever do that path. I can only hope that my current method of mini-PT is good enough. I should be able to get 3 scouts and 2 world class players by the end of tomorrow. Looking through the cup list, it seems most people that are strong enough to challenge me atm have about 2 scouts so if it stays like this i should have a good chance.
i have to admit that my method though is quite a do or die method. Basically if i fail this season i will have burnt all the rest packs i saved over the past 3 seasons and won't have a chance ever. so its a one shot; hopefully it ends with a one kill!
i actually won the last two cups... so i can safely say there's no method to the cup. the old format stunk big time but in this one anyone can win, all the teams are very close in terms of quality. just be smart, play your best players, use good tactics to counter your opponent... but in the end the only thing that always matters is what mood the game engine is in.....
the better quality of your team, the more money prize in the cup.
I'ev used the method 2 but it's not necessary to mess up the team.
My best 11 quality was 46.5. I've sold the worst players and bought 8 free agents with very low quality (3*30-32 + the crappy youngster, 2*).
So I started the season with quality 40.2 (-5.3!)
But after the draw I'm playing against a level 8 (mine is 6) with 44.5 qty
His best11 is 42 quality but honestly I was hoping for something better.
the cup draw isn't based on average quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky
I always have above average team and get kicked out of the cup in the early stages. this cup just hates me I guess.
and what then?Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiballz
reading threads in the forum it seems that teams are grouped by quality
Sure draw is not based on level, considering that past season my opposite was a level 8 (me just a lvl 5)
This season, level 8 again (but now I'm a lvl 6)
nobody knows. i didnt say it wasn't grouped by quality. i said it wasn't grouped by average quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky
Some people guessed that it was by the average quality of your top 11 players, not counting bench and reserves. But it might be less than 11.
Just win it in lvl 1 :)
In the 35T limit League, i just won in my first year - and that was with spending 24T the entire season, and not more cash than the game gave me/i could sell for.
Its perfectly possible, but on higher lvls option 1 would be your best bet unfortunately
In my draw I've seen Level 3 teams face level 6.. and so on and they are losing about 10-0, They REALLY need to give us the option if we want to bother entering it because I would rather prepare for the League or Champions League.
in the cup, all teams have the same stars
so: if you were about 22Q at the beginning of the season, you will play with the one from 20-24.9 (may be some . various)
so, next season i will signe some 11Q player(creat an account, make friend, recommend and sell ) and sea how it come
there's a fourth method:
Beat your opponent's by having the best tactics. I've done it, so can you
lol thats just method 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullabaloo
I won it once at level 1 - that was my second season because I entered the game at the end of the season and got a team which hold last in the league... so I started second season with a little better team but still on level 1 - and won the league and cup.
Now I understand that was a miracle to win the cup because on levels 2 and 3 (yesterday) I was kicked off on the very first stage.
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And even more yesterday I played on my grounds with full attendance and watched the game to have 12% possession advantage, and my opponent got a player off at the beginning, but he scored 10 mins later, then I managed to score one back to have it equal, then he lost second player but scored from a free kick. Whatever I did I couldn't score another one for the rest of 20 mins despite he played without 2 players, then he lost 3rd player but even that didn't help me to score.
And the opponent is only a level higher and 1.0 higher on average team quality.
Last season I finished 1st in the league with 24 wins and 2 loses, also won Champions League,
but there are always some strange things with first games in the cup at the beginning of the season
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Ihor yes because when you start your quality is low in general so you are basicly only paired against other level 1s. My suggestion is not to bother with the cup if you are going to field a descent team through out the seasons.
Every season I'm paired against managers that are around 1-3 levels higher than me and it only takes a few days for them to have around 5-10 quality points better than I across the whole team. If I wanted to keep up with them I would need to spend around 3000 tokens and for them it costs around 50 tokens. Not worth the costs and my only enjoyment is that they get to pay a ****load in win bonuses so they loose money every game they play... not that money means much in this game though.
Thanks, I agree with youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kukilon
I bothered only because the cup gives more money for each game, even more than Champions League, so I thought it would be nice to have that money and spend them to high quality players, but even without that money it is possible to build a good squad and compete for winning the League and Champions League
You will notice that after awhile you get far more from CL. At my level I get 5 million per game at the group stages in the CL and around 1,5 for the preliminary round in the cup.
Wow! Such amounts seem cosmic to me now)
I calculated that will get 6,6 million for reaching cup final and only 3,9 for reaching CL final
Now I know that just need to develop my level, thanks!
