New Cup Format

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06-03-2013
joshyt

New Cup Format

My suggestion.

Where possible keep all teams within level bands. 1-3 4-6 7-9 etc etc.

Cup consists of 16384 teams. This means 13 rounds in total to win the cup. This is the same amount of matches as current competition so can fit in with the same schedule.

1 match straight knock-out each round. This is the style of the actual FA Cup, every match counts!

Semi-final/Final is Neutral.

The prizes in latter rounds can be really astronomical sums like $150,000,000 for the whole competition

This would be a much more fair solution! It would stop token buyers moaning! It would probably also make it the most prestigious of the three as it would be extremely extremely rare to win and probably not usually won by a token buyer either.

With home advantage I'd happily take on a token buyer in a one off game.

In England they call the 'The magic of the FA Cup'

What do others think? How can we suggest this to Nordeus?
06-03-2013
Narf

That would be insane, nobody wants to play in a competition where they have a 1% chance of winning the trophy. Not to mention you haven't thought of the replays in case of a draw, which would results in some teams playing 3 matches in a day. Add the crappy time scheduling to that mix and it quickly becomes a disaster - it's bad enough already.

Plus, I don't think that the chances of token buyers winning it would be slimmer - it would literally become a game of chances and the higher your team's quality, the higher your chances are.
06-03-2013
joshyt

No replays, it is straight knockout!

Nobody wants to play in a big competition?
06-03-2013
July Fourth

Is there 16384 teams around the same level on each server, that will be interesting to find out. 128 team competition is fine as it is. Plus on some servers 16384 would be across a lot of levels, I'm L19 and I've been promoted each and every season and I think there is only a few hundred teams above mine now on my server level-wise and every season I promote, the less teams that will be above mine level wise. Because of the servers I don't think a 16384 cup would be possible to make it a more fair competition.

I'm no fan of the current cup format, but season by season, I'm slowly adjusting to it.
06-03-2013
joshyt

P.S There are 128 teams in current cup so there already is less than 1% chance of winning ;)
06-03-2013
joshyt

You can play friendlies across servers. As each round is drawn 'out of a hat' it can be programmed in a similar way.
06-03-2013
Dimitar Ganchev

I think that the Cup now its not a lot of fear, cause there I'm playing vs ppl whit +2 lvl then me and its real hard to win against team whit players whit 10+ skill more then my best player :S
06-03-2013
festinator

Can someone explain the difference between the old and new formats for me?
06-03-2013
July Fourth

Quote:

Originally Posted by festinator

Can someone explain the difference between the old and new formats for me?

Old format: Upto Season 37 - Pyramid Cup, Teams across all levels were chucked into all cups and there were matches of L15 v L2 for example and the highest level teams were seeded to get to the later stages, You were also put into cups with your friend clubs.

New format (current): Season 38 - Present, Quality Cup, teams of roughly the same amount of quality were put into the same cup, the best 128 teams on each server would play in the same cup, then the next cup would feature the next best 128 and so on. Nordeus changed the format to try and make it more fair to all managers.
06-03-2013
tongly45

the only thing to change that the prize money and make it the most valuable cup. Playing with player the same level with you is better than 10 + level or 20 + level.
for me cup prize = 3 champion league prize.

and 128 opponent is something lourd for the game i thinks. it take 2 seconds for just loading results of the first day !
06-04-2013
festinator

Quote:

Originally Posted by July Fourth

Old format: Upto Season 37 - Pyramid Cup, Teams across all levels were chucked into all cups and there were matches of L15 v L2 for example and the highest level teams were seeded to get to the later stages, You were also put into cups with your friend clubs.

New format (current): Season 38 - Present, Quality Cup, teams of roughly the same amount of quality were put into the same cup, the best 128 teams on each server would play in the same cup, then the next cup would feature the next best 128 and so on. Nordeus changed the format to try and make it more fair to all managers.

Oh alright thanks. Kinda glad they changed it then. Last season was only my first, but I still managed to place 3rd (managed to lose to a bot team in the semis)
06-04-2013
KY RU

i'm level 3
why my oppo in the cup are lev 5 or 6
they have a very good players and this very difficult to win for me
i think so that this is not fair
i'll not win the cup ever !
06-04-2013
Kukilon

That's what happens when you don't manipulate your way into an easier cup. You probably have quite a good team and Nordeus will punish you for it.
06-04-2013
KY RU

i have not good team in comparison to players on lev.5 or 6
and one question-if i care about my team and i buying good players for NOT CHEAP tokens
i must lose ??? because i must play with higher level oppo??
so be underdog is better -you plaing for free ! you losing ?? doesn't matter if you'll buy tokens and better players you'll lose as well because you have players with 5 stars and "they" give you oppo with 7 or 8 stars :))
maybe somebody explaine me what i should if i wanna win?
06-04-2013
festinator

I think the reason its so uneven is because people quit the game after level 1 as they get bored, so the higher up you go, the more the level of the players varies. Because last season when I was level 1, I only faced level 1 teams in my league. This season, I'm seeing both level 2 and 3 and I'm guessing next season I'll be seeing levels 4 and 5 along with my fellow level 3's.
06-04-2013
nicvdv

Quote:

Originally Posted by KY RU

i'm level 3
why my oppo in the cup are lev 5 or 6
they have a very good players and this very difficult to win for me
i think so that this is not fair
i'll not win the cup ever !

I am also lvl 3 and have also lvl 5 and 6 in the CUP but I like it because there quality is around the same as mine so I have to play with tactic to win. The first to matches I played a draw against a lvl 6 who is 1.5Q higher then me but I won on because at home it was 0-0 and out it was 1-1. and in the second match he only scored in the 82'.

This is football. The champions league and the league are easy but the CUP is battling and prestige so I have no problem with it.
06-04-2013
Narf

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshyt

No replays, it is straight knockout!

Nobody wants to play in a big competition?

Weren't you suggesting that it should copy the real FA Cup format? In the FA Cup they have replays even if the final is a draw. If that's not what you're suggesting then it's even more unfair - you have no chance of playing a home game unless the game has decided so.