They aren't that bad @22. I had bought 22 years old nordgen, ST, corner SA, 5*. He was useful, played for my team 4 seasons. When I sold him, he had 3* but his attack and phyisical were very high and def low. He had great growth for his age and his good form (and MOTM) also helped. Someone will say that nordgen is only young player, then he was grown nordgen Best part of story is that i replaced him with 5* 18.y.o. nordgen, corner SA, quallity near scout (4)