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Hi managers,
Everyone know this tactic, for many it worked and for many it didn't.
I want to share this tactic with you, because it really helped me. In old version it was one of most used tactics in Top Eleven. Almost all my friends used it... But the question is: Do you really know how to use it, and how it works?
Check this video, I made it for you guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLnteSyGC-0
Hope you liked, next video will be about the 4-5v-1.
Yeah, it's very good. Got an association colleague that often use this tactic or some variation of it that is very successful for us.
But he also mixture a lot with the details, I recon a lot of success also comes from that. Knowing how to fine tune it against all different kind of opponents.
Great video BTW!
I couldn't agree more specially after my Cup final today.
4-5-1 V is the formation I like to use , but 4-1-4-1 is what I trust more when playing vs very tough opponents.
My team RINOKEROS (lv12) played in the Cup final vs a lv15 team (leader of his league) so I set 4-1-4-1.
My orders are defense/counter/flanks/low pressing/ normal tackling/zonal / no offside and long passing as oppo played with 4-2-2-2 hex and didn't have DMs.
Red arrows to my ML & MR, blue arrows to my 5 defenders.
Max win bonus, 4 X10% training bonus but didn't use extra bonus as I was watching from old version.
Oppo didn't watch (too bad for him :rolleyes: ).
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I'm almost always 4411, and use 4141 as well. I haven't quite figured out how to make best use of my DMC, sometimes he's 10, sometimes 6, more inconsistent than most players and positions. But he's 18 this season, maybe next he'll settle in... dmc/DC fast trainer with playmaker added.
It's good to have a DMC/MC and a MC/AMC (extra positions ofc.).
It's much better than giving useless midfield sa like C-K, dribbler or playmaker.
You can switch formations during game, like from 4-1-4-1 to 4-4-1-1 without subs.
Yes.... defensive is the best. Regards #my team
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Honestly, I cannot believe you won this game! Congrats !!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Svanberg
Well guys, the 4-1-4-1 is very popular yeah, but in my opinion you should not put blue arrows on ALL defenders, but only on the DCs. Well, atleast for me it worked really well.
I added a video about the 4-5-1 v style, you can find it on my youtube channel.
Hi lads, all i use is defensive tactics , I have just win the champions league & am sitting top of my league. also beat opposition far stronger than me. If your going defensive make sure your training shedules work well.
- me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo
@Nick Lizas, please confirm that, you were there hahaha
- thanks
- now proved that I 'm not a coward ? LOOOL
Did it again :)
I used 4-1-4-1 in my CH.L. final and won again. The orders were the same but this time I was attending from the new version so I used 3 times the extra defense bonus.
I was playing in a +1 level CH.L. . Most of my opponents were lv13.
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yes, it's a treble, title confirmed :cool:
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Congratulations!!! M dreaming now !!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
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yes i confirm and nikologiorgos he is the top manager for this game ,my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
he is the best one, just look simply the trophies that has taken!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and it worked again vs a very tough formation in asc. games
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What was your order and arrows strategy ?? I need assistance (full)Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
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excuse me but are you reading or what ? :confused:
it's already posted
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Oh sorry ...got it
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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
What ability should a dmc/mc have ?? and a mc/amc??
to give a DMC/MC and MC/AMC those extra positions, needs about 50 greens.
To make them stronger (middle 6* players), needs another 50.
(if they are fast trainers).
If you have another 50 greens :p to give them sa, playmaker is ok with the DMC/MC and shadow striker better for MC/AMC.
If you haven't any descent F-C or C-K specialist, you can also give this one too (but better test him in few games first, if he has the talent).
thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
@ nikolgiorgos
hi, i tried your strategy and so far its working amazingly well (unbeaten run with only 91% team conceded 0 goal on league 1 goal on ch. league and 1 goal on cup) but i have question, do you only play long pass against certain strategy/stronger opponent only? because my assistant always advice me to change to short pass.
if oppo hasn't DMC (or DML-DMR), I start with long pass (less defense lines )
But everything in Orders except normal-mix-no can give you an advantage or a disadvantage.
So if you use any of them, it's good to watch your game, observe the as.m. comments, number shots and % of passing.
If it's not working, remove it.
thanks for the insight, 1 more question
my team is pretty much the same as last season except the defender and gk, last season i use 4-4-2 and 4-5v-1 mostly and this 1 forward i have score a lot(top scorer of the league). now that i use 4-1-4-1 my goal/assist mostly come from mid player and this forward only score 1 so far this season. Im not complaining as my team now win more consistently, but do you think this is because the strategy make my forward serve as false 9 and no matter who the forward is the result would be the same(mid score more than forward)? or should i looking to sign another forward?
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Just used 4141 defensive/flanks/long/on; low/hard/zonal/off ; down arrows DCx2; in a great 0-1 win.
451v (112%) against 4141 (99%)
Both managers present, +5% possession for me (away)
Red card my ST at 30'. Switch to 413w1, with ST dropping from 115 to 94q veteran, same tactics.
End result 0-1, more shots and SoT
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@ justcallmeupik
I also use 4-5-1 V and I like it more as my ML-AML & MR-AMR score more goals there.
I just use 4-1-4-1 for the tough games or where 4-5-1 doesn't work right (like vs 4-4-2 or vs 3DC-DML-DMR)
ST has a general problem anyway. I use mine for F-K and penalties, to boost his rates and goals.
If he isn't good at anything, sell him.
Thanks for the video, really helpful. So did you have defensive mentality? Long passes? And nick on the thread used low pressing, would you then suggest high?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavel Zelene
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This worked again for a 2-1 win in the home leg. This time I was 4141 @ 111% vs 451v @ 117% with deadly AMR and very good DMC. I did have a full +15% possession bonus. I changed passing focus a few times and used defensive, condition, and attacking bonus. Turned off the counter attack after goal 2. Corner specialist was important for me, her goal also came from a cornerQuote:
Originally Posted by LeManiaque
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Edit: in this case I also applied attack arrow to ML/MR and DL/DR, 1-2 total at a time and watched their ratings to change on and off
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If i can't watch it, should I change something?
and that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so.
no, the same
I am new to the game. Just lvl3 ,so with lack of experience.. I trully believe that for all of you defensive tactics work more than fine .For me, when i played with stronger opponents ,worked also .But all the times i tried them against equal or lower oppnents lost !! I tend to believe that the chemistry of some teams is to play offensively .
Especially this season defensive tactics seem a bit weaker and I see an advantage in attacking football.
Has someone noticed anything similar?
Depends on the enemy tactics and formation mainly...
Yes, i will not disagree with you... Attack positions are op this season tho... Most of my enemy teams today had full attacking tactic....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverfield
So we should use long only when our oppo doesn't have dmc . But I've used long with some teams with dmc's and works . I think it depends a lot of oppo's orders
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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
That's only a general rule.
Sometimes if oppo doesn't have DMs long pass doesn't work and sometimes if oppo has, it works.
Nothing is 100% sure or else we could predict every game.
I know man , look , yesterday I scored 2 goals in 70 - 85 min with long passes , and my oppo had dmc , so I think it it depends on the oppo orders too :)
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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
that must be a shock for the other manager
If you played the same opposite one more time after you would lose or draw. That's me thinking.
