Hello guys. Help me please

I play semi final against a player , who play with 4-1-4-1 like this dl dc dc dr, dmc , ml mr , amr aml , st
My team 101 , his team 105 , how can i win... I played untill now with 4-1-4-1 dr dc dc dl, dmc, ml mc mc mr, st defensive, mixt mixt, zonal, high presure in his own, counter atk on

And also i will play final cup against same value team , who play 3-1-4-1-1 like this dc dc dc, dmc, mr mc mc ml, amc , st.
How can i win , i really want triple crown, this game is final, and the other game from up is semi final, if i will win the game in cw final is mine because the best team have 10% value down from me so please help me in this 2 games with same specific tactics than i can play

I suggest that you play man to man because they have one attacker. For the first tactic I would suggest you to play normal attack formation, counter attack off. The CL game counter attack off, pressing high, tackling hard and hard attacking.

What you say is to use same tactic 4-1-4-1 , just change from defensive to high attack? Without counter? Do you think if i can put some arrows?

You are the manager you deide what tactic. I said that you can play Normal Mentality depending on how it goes the game change. Without Counter! I play with arrows on all defenders. Put on the wingers arrows also.

Up arrows or down?

I loșe 2-0... I dont know why if the post have 50 view only 1 trying to help me....

I lose 2-0... I dont know why if the post have a lot of views nobody want to help me with same advice , in the game after first half it switched in the 4-1-2-2-1 , dc dc dr dl, dmc, mr ml amr aml st... So ... Any advice to return from 2-0 , i play home next match

i never faced that strange formation before. it kind of rare formation anyway. no wonder they not respond to your post because they don't really sure how to counter it. same as me.

but i can give some advise.
if your opponent use 4-1-2-2-1 like this

---------ST--------
AML---------AMR
ML------------MR
-------DMC-------
DL DC DC DR

he may play defensively with long counter attack on both flank.

just play 4-3-3 with focusing your passing through the middle.

---ST-ST-ST---
--MC-MC-MC--
DL DC DC DR

the reason is here:
1) forget to attack the flank, your opponent has ML/MR and DL/DR to protect their flank
2) focusing the middle with your 3 ST and 3 MC. im sure you can beat the opponent DMC and DC
3) don't play attacking mentality, just play normal if you don't want to suffer from their counter attack.
4) you should OFF offside trap, OFF counter attack, play short pass through middle with high press to gain possession in midfield

i think this will do, but im not so sure because as i said i never face this kind of formation before

or another option, classic 4-4-2. i think this time 4-4-2 may work

--------------ST--ST---------
ML(Down)-MC-MC-MR(Down)
DL-------DC--DC------DC

anyway, i also once almost get the treble before, just crucial last minute lost at CL final,
until now i just patiently wait until i really fully understand this game and go for the triple crown for my 1st time.
just keep calm and don't rush, you may ended up losing your money also.

How can i play against this manager , is lvl 3 ,me 4. But he have only 6 stars players all with speciality... I think he spend a lot for tokens... Now tomorrow i play final cup against a little less opponent than me. He play 3-1-4-1-1 like this : dc dc dc , dmc , mr mc mc ml, amc, st .... How can i beat him , its working a 4-5-1 v attacking mod or can i use 4-1-4-1 normal??

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How can i play against this manager , is lvl 3 ,me 4. But he have only 6 stars players all with speciality... I think he spend a lot for tokens... Now tomorrow i play final cup against a little less opponent than me. He play 3-1-4-1-1 like this : dc dc dc , dmc , mr mc mc ml, amc, st .... How can i beat him , its working a 4-5-1 v attacking mod or can i use 4-1-4-1 normal??

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go with 4-5-1 V.

--------------ST-----------------
AML(UP)---------AMR(UP)
---------MC----MC-----------
-----------DMC(DOWN)------
DL-----DC----DC-----DR

mentality : normal
focus passing : both flank
passing style : mixed
counter : OFF

press : High
Tackle : normal
marking : zonal
Offside trap : OFF

reason is here.
1) you need DMC with down arrow to always keep on eye of opponent AMC
2) you need to focus on both flank since opponet dont has defender at flank.
3) don't use AMC, don't attack middle, because your opponent are all defending in middle
4) don't overdo your attack at 1st half. just play normally and use possession bonus, the goal will come for sure

4-1-4-1 also can with same mentality, it just like 4-5-1-V during the attack if you put up arrow on the ML and MR

----------------ST--------------
ML(UP)--MC--MC--MR(UP)
DL------DC----DC------DR

the basic different of AML and ML is like this:
i) AML will never help for defending. their role mainly for attack. can give high threat to opponent
ii) ML will help for defending, also can be use for attack, but not as high as AML threat.

it is up to you how you want your flanker to be, more on attack or more on defensive,

if me, i will use AML/AMR, because the opponent is slightly weaker and don't have defender on the flank,

i want to give high threat to their flank

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Originally Posted by alexp7m

I play semi final against a player , who play with 4-1-4-1 like this dl dc dc dr, dmc , ml mr , amr aml , st
My team 101 , his team 105 , how can i win... I played untill now with 4-1-4-1 dr dc dc dl, dmc, ml mc mc mr, st defensive, mixt mixt, zonal, high presure in his own, counter atk on

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And for this do you think i can turn the score. He beat me in morning 2-0 . after he change the formation like i said 4-1 (dr dc dc dl dmc) mr ml amr aml st

Thx mate

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Originally Posted by alexp7m

And for this do you think i can turn the score. He beat me in morning 2-0 . after he change the formation like i said 4-1 (dr dc dc dl dmc) mr ml amr aml st

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yes, as i told previously. focus attack in the middle
4-3-3 or 4-4-2 (down arrow on ML/MR)

but im really sorry if you still cannot turn the table, because i never faced this kind of opponent before,

i need to watch the match and statistics to analyse further

https://m.imgur.com/a/MpQI6
https://m.imgur.com/a/2HCSD

All what you need

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https://m.imgur.com/a/MpQI6
https://m.imgur.com/a/2HCSD

All what you need

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looks like he use 4-1(DMC)-1(MC)-3(AML/AMC/AMR)-1
and change to 4-1(DMC)-1(MC)-2(AML/AMR)-2 in match?

just use 4-5-1 V as a beginner for you to understand this game

what you need to understand here is the function of AMC and DMC.

the DMC in 4-5-1 V can change the flexible of this formation by changing the way of DMC play

i) if opponent has AMC, put down arrow on your DMC. your DMC will mark the AMC.
- your opponent has DMC, so, you don't have to use AMC to attack, 4-5-1 V is suitable for you this case.
ii) if opponent change his AMC to become ST, you just put UP arrow on your DMC, or just make him become MC
this time you will have 3 MC, where you will conquer the midfield, it will make their 2 ST difficult to receive the ball.
(its good to has DMC with available to play in MC position also)
when you has 3 MC, its good to play short pass to make sure you fully conquer the midfield and then attack on flank in your case.
iii) since your opponent has DMC, you dont have to attack through middle, just attack on both flank

this is one of the flexibility of 4-5-1 V.

i suggest you to read this thread to begin understand, maybe you can figure out something from here

https://forum.topeleven.com/formatio...ion-guide.html

even if your opponent formation didn't listed out in this thread, but if you read all the explanation in that thread,

at least you could understand something and come out with your own way to beat your oppoenent

After that game losing with 2-0 in champions league , it start the lose orders. So i lose 2 game in championship, i lose the final.... With 1-0 in 90'' scores.... So now i have 3 more games in championship to win but 1 game is critical i need that 9 points. But i have same believes about that game from CL. Can i turn back from 2-0? Now is playing with 4-1-1-2-2 like dr dc dc dl dmc mc amr aml st. How can i score 3-4 goals to beat him... Have same value like me same stars . before this game i have one in championship . i think in championship i will beat him but problem is in CL can i turn this score with my best formation like 4-1-4-1 dr dcdc dl dmc mr mc mc ml st? And how to play ? Defensive attacking?

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After that game losing with 2-0 in champions league , it start the lose orders. So i lose 2 game in championship, i lose the final.... With 1-0 in 90'' scores.... So now i have 3 more games in championship to win but 1 game is critical i need that 9 points. But i have same believes about that game from CL. Can i turn back from 2-0? Now is playing with 4-1-1-2-2 like dr dc dc dl dmc mc amr aml st. How can i score 3-4 goals to beat him... Have same value like me same stars . before this game i have one in championship . i think in championship i will beat him but problem is in CL can i turn this score with my best formation like 4-1-4-1 dr dcdc dl dmc mr mc mc ml st? And how to play ? Defensive attacking?

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hi alex, sorry to hear that, sometimes everything can turn bad during the match eventhough we have done everything that we think correct.

lets get to the topic, guessing from his formation, he may play defensively with counter because he already got 2-0 agregate.

just play attacking, maybe it risky being counter but nothing to lose for you now. you need goal, keep high pressing with your 4-1-4-1 will do because u has 2 MC. he has only 1 MC, you will conquer the midfield by that.

put UP arrow on your DMC

put UP arrow on ML and MR

you can change to hard attacking if you didnt score in 1st half.

mentality : attacking or hard attack
focus pass : mixed
pass style : mixed
counter : ON (because you need to immediate attack after win the ball by high press)

press : high
tackle : normal
marking : zonal
offside trap : ON

Becquse off the condition of my player, i change in my last minute the formation and i start with 4-1-3-1-1 like dr dc dc dl, dmc, ml mc mr, amc st
Hard attacking ,middle. Mixed, counter on, high, man to man , offside on. So surprize in 35' i have already 2-0, red card him penalty missed me:)))) so i put arrowss to my dmc down and up to mc. In 60 because i have only one gooc amc , i come to 4-1-4-1 in put one mc, and going up with arrow both. So 3-0 and that was the final result. So.... Im very sad because i lose the cup in 90' with 1-0 but now, after that 2 games from today at 18:35 in championship winning with 3-2 , after he had 2-0 and this from CL at 21:34 winning with 3-0.... I think i will won the championship and with a little bit lucky i will won the CL because my oponent have -15% than me
My final oponent from CL is gone play with 3-1-3-3 like dr dc dl dmc mr mc ml st st st OR dc dc dc dmc mr mc ml st st st so i think 4-1-4-1 with defensive counter on its gone be impressive, what you say?

your opponent in CL might be play long ball guessing from his formation with one MC only. they also dont has AMC, so i believe you already know what to do.

anyway i also once before almost get treble, just lost 3-2 in 90' concede in final. i only got double that season. after that all my seson very difficult to get even double. i don't know when i have a chance to get treble. maybe because i always end the season with my squad full of stars. so i will be group into higher level cup, CL and league with strong opponent. i cannot send all my stars players since they still young and always get 7 stars every end season.

i think you already know the way how to get easy Cup and Easy CL next season to get treble easily right?

Not realy but i will try. So tomorrow i play the final cl so i think offensive to the middle with my 4-1-4-1 mixed it what i need to play

all the best, i already lost both cup final and CL at semi final. now im relying on the league only

Im really sorry for you,good luck in next season. When i reach triple crown i will not play anymore

How to beat 4-2-3-1 like dr dc dc dl mc mc aml amc amr st?

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Originally Posted by alexp7m

How to beat 4-2-3-1 like dr dc dc dl mc mc aml amc amr st?

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if i facing as above formation, i will play either one as below :

i) 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond (Attack short pass through middle, down arrow on DMC)
ii) 4-5-1 V (Mixed pass mixed area, down arrow on DMC)

maybe there are another better ways.
its better you post new thread with new title about this formation,
so everybody can read and give the feedback

It was a very big bull**** this season. Why?! Because, in with one game before final championship i was played with second place, (me 1 st place with 2 point in front), i lose with 3-1 i dont know why how... Because my opponent it was low then me with almost 15%, and after the game it was 1st with 1 point but in the last game, he make 0-0 and i win so i win championship. CL at same i won because i turn down the score from 2-0 and i won with 3-0. But i am mad and sad because my association relagted so no tokens.... And i want to change my my asso. If i know something. And also i am mad an sad because i lose the cup in 90' with a stupid goal i dont know how and why. My st go to the goal 3 times single and is man point and when it was on the front of goal just turn back the goal... Why why why, i dont know. So, qfter this i cqn say , it was a good season. Now, without tokens i just hope to one trophy doesn-t matter what kind of trophy, but i want 1 just to dont broke my steps

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