bug with new scout list players ?

[nikolgiorgos]

When the scout list changed, with more players and a variety of Tokens, we can see many of those players with wrong special abilities - as you can see at this post
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...sa-scouts.html

Also many players have "wrong" skills.
Those players are from this season list.


attacker with better defending skills



defender with better attacking skill

Also lately in the forum I read many comments about how scouts performing really bad.
I also had this experience but when I bought two scouts from my mobile, the old version, everything was ok.

I know that not everybody player or scout we buy "must"perform good but I think it's not a coincidence and it has to do with some bad programming.

[Marcell Platzdasch]

Sorry to reply on such an old issue but this really is an annoying one. For instance, just this season for me: Level 22, means Scout players range between 130-134 averages. If you would pay real money now, you would want your team to build a quite good, if not perfect team.

Let's head to the Scouts and ask what they find:



Let's say the team would need two new defenders. Ideally, they'd have defensive bulwark (that's what it is called in German - the one with the barrier symbol) as a special skill. Apparently, one of the defenders here does have that. I am waiting for at least 3 consecutive seasons now that a younger one spawns, as this guy is with 28+ of no use for more than 2 seasons and only 130 means he will be unlikely to reach next star area (135-139) before he finishes his career (given 2 games and training per day & injuries).

What we could build is a defensive line that could kick the corners, take the freekicks and penalties. However, as you will usually focus on defensive training with your defenders, they will soon lack of the attacking skills needed (centre pass, long kick, finish). Also no use for them, unless you want an soon-to-be-imbalanced defense that then rather should be attacking.

At the moment, you'll be better off to try and get a young talent at a 5 star level from normal transfer market and just build him up for 1-2 seasons or invest in power training - that'd be costly on the other hand, esp. if you should encounter bad luck with injuries.

And that's just defense. There are literally NO Scout attackers for a quarter year now that could come up with 1-on-1-attacking special skill. And on most other positions, you have the age/low skill problematic once you have a fitting skill (i.e. 1-on-1-goalkeeper is 29/131, winger-phantom is 27/132 and the only playmakers coming through are on the most unlikeliest positions of DML/DMR only...)

And also, the problem with having Scouts in your team is always the next season, as you will play Cup & CL etc against opponents who are 1-2 levels ahead and beat the hell out of your team. But hey, you could build a team that only takes corners and penalties (but loses the cup penalties randomly anyway) on the other hand, so... there's fun... or not?

It's as if Nordeus wants nobody to pay them. Or just doesn't care.

So, rant done.

[nikolgiorgos]

That's an awful scout list
The most expensive players (69T) have only one postion
DR, DR, AML while in the market there are many players with double position (DL-DC, DR-DC, AML-ML, AML-AMC).
The same with 64 T, DMR and DR.
DC-DMC is looking good but he has a useless special ability (penalty specialist )
Those two AML are looking good but why (specially that AML-AMC) should have equal defensive and attacking skill ?
From the others above (59 & 54 Token), if we clear the players that have a single position or a useless sa, the only one good for buing is the GK.

[gizzmo]

This is something difficult to understand for me: why Nordeus makes life so difficult to people who buy scouts (like me !). We spend loads of tokens on those players (or are willing to) and we end up with lists as the one shown above. Not the position you need, not the SA you need and sometimes, you end up with a very average player (to say the least). But I must admit that last point is less and less the case. Yeah, it is a good news for those who cannot afford scouts. But it is still something I find difficult to explain simply considering Nordeus' interest.

[nikolgiorgos]

This is something difficult to understand for me: why Nordeus makes life so difficult to people who buy scouts

yap, maybe the question is the answer too.
Not to give such an advantage to token buyers.

[gizzmo]

I said I am a scout buyer not a token buyer. I earned loads of tokens with everething except money.
And I was trying to think like a Nordeus business developper: it would me my interest to force players to buy tokens. In that case, making scouts the ultimate weapon would be an option.