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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    Good topic this, think a moderator should make it a sticky thread perhaps, many managers still don't even know what exactly an illegal formation is.
    i think so , has been sticked

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    It is a good topic but like Justdome stated when he was a mod on the old board, yes there are illegal formation but the programmers will not disclose which.
    I remember justdome stating he played with two DC's and a DML/DMR for several seasons but then it became ineffective, assuming the rest of his formation was 3MC's AML/AMR and a ST that was a fair set up.
    I assume this would have been when certain formations were clamped down on.
    What will give us a more conclusive guide is by others like Razz bench testing the formations against as many managers with secondry teams as possible
    I do not have one and friendlies for me are out of the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accyrover View Post
    It is a good topic but like Justdome stated when he was a mod on the old board, yes there are illegal formation but the programmers will not disclose which.
    I remember justdome stating he played with two DC's and a DML/DMR for several seasons but then it became ineffective, assuming the rest of his formation was 3MC's AML/AMR and a ST that was a fair set up.
    I assume this would have been when certain formations were clamped down on.
    What will give us a more conclusive guide is by others like Razz bench testing the formations against as many managers with secondry teams as possible
    I do not have one and friendlies for me are out of the question.
    That's the format I put on my team now, as it seems ok against 3-4-3 format. I don't have many other options because of red card and injuries.

    My team is somewhat stronger than my opponent tonight. I can leave it and post results tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expadaloco View Post
    That's the format I put on my team now, as it seems ok against 3-4-3 format. I don't have many other options because of red card and injuries.

    My team is somewhat stronger than my opponent tonight. I can leave it and post results tomorrow.
    Yes but the engine has had many up dates since those days.
    Playing two defenders will definitely lose you 30% possession, giving your opponent 80/20 advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accyrover View Post
    Yes but the engine has had many up dates since those days.
    Playing two defenders will definitely lose you 30% possession, giving your opponent 80/20 advantage.
    I saw and changed again the format back again with 3 DC's 1DML and 1 DMR 2 MC AML and AMR and finaly the striker.
    Stopped changing team now. Drove me nuts this morning.

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    you dont need MC, i played without one with no problems
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    "Please provide evidence (in-game screenshots) if you believe the findings above are wrong. "That's not true" because "I used ...." or "I played against ..." comments will be ignored without supporting evidence (screenshots)."

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    1 of my friend uses this formation and got 20% ball possesion. It meets ALL requirements. I don't know why it's illegal.

    ---ST ST ST---

    ----MC MC-----

    DL DC DC DC DR
    ------GK-------
    Last edited by Lê Anh Minh; 01-09-2013 at 04:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lê Anh Minh View Post
    1 of my friend uses this formation and got 20% ball possesion. It meets ALL requirements. I don't know why it's illegal.

    ---ST ST ST---

    ----MC MC-----

    DL DC DC DC DR
    ------GK-------
    Looks fine to me, 5-2-3 is actually a real life formation, albeit a rare one. Maybe his team is just really bad, or maybe you need 3 midfielders? The yellow players, that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razz View Post
    Based on the known facts, here are my Hypothetical formation rules:

    Requirements:

    • Goalkeeper
    • Some combination of 3 DBs/FBs (3 players anywhere in the back row )
    • At least 1, but no more than 2, players on EACH outside flank. {the D(L/R), DM(L/R), M(L/R), AM(L/R) slots}
    • at least 1 MC (DMC doesn't qualify)
    • at least 1 Striker
    You don't need at least one MC, you need at least one player in that row. Having just an ML or MR is fine as well. The rest is all correct, but I'd just write defenders, I don't think anyone uses DB, and FB is only used for the side defenders. I think those are all the rules regarding illegal formations. Tentatively, I'm suggesting that you need at least 3 midfielders, yellow dots in the formation box in-game.

    There's no need to list out all the known illegal formations, because let's say we're listing out illegal formations due to no right sided player, you can have any combination of 10 players in the other 19 positions as long as they aren't on the right, and then there are other rules for illegal formations, left sided, 3 defenders, etc, so a final list would be too long.
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