4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond again

I struggle to score against 4-1-2-1-2ND with 4-5-1V.
My team is about 8 points stronger. Out out of 5 games I never won. Did manage a few draws though.
I tried defensive and counter with long passes / whole pitch with short, without counter / or switched my AMR/AML to MR/ML. All of which to no avail.
Possession is about the same, shots on goal too. Every game seems kinda balanced with a slight favour to him.

3N-5-2V was an absolute desaster.
4-1-3W-2 looked a bit better in possession but I played it like 15 minutes of a single game so I don't have statistics on that formation.

Try 3N-1-4-2 Defensive counter down both sides, don't expect to thrash your opponent with just 8 point advantage though. I would predict 3-0 or 3-1 final score.

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Originally Posted by Croft Original

Try 3N-1-4-2 Defensive counter down both sides, don't expect to thrash your opponent with just 8 point advantage though. I would predict 3-0 or 3-1 final score.

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I did that slightly modified as 3N-5-1V but couldn't withstand any of his attacks so I kept playing with 4 defenders and 1 defensive midfielder. I will give it a try though.
3-1 or even 3-0 would be amazing so far.

What time do you Kick off?

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Originally Posted by Croft Original

What time do you Kick off?

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Not for some time now. I did a few friendly matches. Another one has to wait until tommorrow because I got some important matches coming up. How does the time matter btw?

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Originally Posted by megatron

Not for some time now. I did a few friendly matches. Another one has to wait until tommorrow because I got some important matches coming up. How does the time matter btw?

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Just wanted to know how you got on & what formation you used, will you post result?

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Originally Posted by Croft Original

Just wanted to know how you got on & what formation you used, will you post result?

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Of course. I will try the one you suggested a few times. Shall I put red arrows on the MR/ML as well?

I beat a narrow 4-1-2-1-2 using 3w- 5- 2v try that

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Originally Posted by megatron

Of course. I will try the one you suggested a few times. Shall I put red arrows on the MR/ML as well?

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No you will pull them out of position, the whole point of the formation is to make his AMC redundant with your DMC, then overpower the midfield your 4 against his 2 & his DMC is not serving any purpose as he is not marking any of your players. The 2 R & L mid-fielders will have a field day supporting your 2 strikers.

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Originally Posted by Croft Original

No you will pull them out of position, the whole point of the formation is to make his AMC redundant with your DMC, then overpower the midfield your 4 against his 2 & his DMC is not serving any purpose as he is not marking any of your players. The 2 R & L mid-fielders will have a field day supporting your 2 strikers.

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Did manage to play today: I won 3:2(E). The game was not really impressive. I had a bonus of 8% in possession, here are the statistics:

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I ran into an almost exact same situation as you did. I ran into a 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond and i used what I read was supposed to be a counter formation of the 4-5-1v. I ran with normal, down both flanks, own half, mixed, and zonal and lost pretty bad. 3-2 was the final score, but my two goals came late, so it wasn't as close of a game as it looked. My quality was 3 points better than his side also.

What was your result? Did you change formations?

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Originally Posted by megatron

Did manage to play today: I won 3:2(E). The game was not really impressive. I had a bonus of 8% in possession, here are the statistics:

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Well done :D well I did say it would be tight, but not expected it to be that tight.

2nd match. Tried 3N-1-4-2 defensive counter (defensive, both flanks, own half, mixed passing, counter) again. It went a lot better and I won 5:0. I had a -5% possession bonus.

Right one is me.
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next time if you are much better than opponent use the exact formation will give you sure win.

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Originally Posted by fmldotcom

next time if you are much better than opponent use the exact formation will give you sure win.

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I really don't think there are sure wins. Once I played against an opponent who had a rating of 14 where I had a rating of 32. He had an illegal formation (like GK on the field and vice versa). I won 11:0 the first match and lost the return 0:1.

FYI that opponent I posted earlier was about 8 points weaker than me but I only played two matches with that formation so far. I like to see a few more to believe this tactics will grant a win ratio of 80-90% or so.

against narrow diamond only
DL-DC-DC-DR-DMC-MC-MC-MC-ST-ST
blue arrows on DCs
instructions
normal, mixed, own half, normal, mixed, zonal, no counter, no offside

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Originally Posted by Gustlik89

against narrow diamond only
DL-DC-DC-DR-DMC-MC-MC-MC-ST-ST
blue arrows on DCs
instructions
normal, mixed, own half, normal, mixed, zonal, no counter, no offside

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With that formation I would give up the stronger midfield. I could not use the lack of his flanks to my advantage. The left and right defenders could help out the center but are otherwise useless. Furthermore blue arrows on defenders wouldn't have any effect. Same as red arrows on strikers.