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Hi, currently I am having trouble with 413w2, have drawn and lost against this formation in champions league, and have a guy in my league who uses it. Tried using counter formations and bog standard 442 but to no avail. Has anyone got a formation that has been successful against it this season? Orders and arrows would be appreciated.
Anybody?
4-1-4-1, normal mentality. Red arrows on ML/MR.
It will allow you to block his central MC with your DMC (you can red arrow him if you want).
Your attacks will be mostly done on the flanks, but don't set order to flanks passing (since you don't have real AML/AMR), just take mixed.
Which team is the best quality-wise ?
Tried that, and lost. my team is/was better.
Possible to have more info on this ? Some screens perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by crsbrwn2000
Phone is charging so can't do screens, not sure how to do it on computer (noob!!). My Q was 44.2 I think, his 43.1, I have 2 scout mcs and a scout level striker. possession was 46-54 (I was playing away). His highest rated player is a 48 keeper, mine a 55 mc. anything else you need?
Unfortunately, yes, : (
But with this. I can already tell his GK did a good job at stopping your shots. Furthermore, I'd say quality-wise, both teams were pretty much equal (1 quality difference is really irrelevant here). So the fact you were playing away didn't really help. But, that's only from what you just said.
I'll need the whole statistics to see in more details what happened, the subs you/your opponent made, or should have made, the formations (4-1-3W-2 vs 4-1-4-1 obviously) but seeing what players were placed where helps as well.
How was your morale/condition/win bonus before the match by the way ?
Oh and what was the score ??
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Morale and condition were pretty much full, win bonus at 150k
OK, nice. What I can say from this is 5 of his players perform better than yours. That alone is generally enough to decide the winner when the match gets this tight.
But you did lead the possession bonus... by 8%, which means your formation wasn't bad against his, considering you were even away. You also was simply unlucky, because you had more shots on target than him, more corners, and yet, only got one goal.
I really think if your players didn't perform poorer than his, you would have won it, quite easily. The question is thus why are your players performing poorly ? : ) Because, 4 players at 6, and the rest at 7, with no 8s, or 9s, will often be fatal.
Usually, performance decrease if Win bonus isn't high enough, or if players are not at least at 80%+ Morale and Condition at the start of the match, or if you don't respect their position on the pitch, or if they simply had nothing to do... (like your GK not having to catch any ball, because your defense is so good).
If all of that is respected and their performance is still low, then they are just bad... and you should probably replace them, : (
Hum that blue arrow on DMC should have been, red. I did specify it. It would have helped your pressing, and you wouldn't have lost any defense neither in the process (at least not against his formation).Quote:
Originally Posted by crsbrwn2000
Not saying you lost because of this, but it sure didn't help.
kebess same as mine OP . last time i lost 1-0 he was playing 4-1-3w-2 .. and me playing with 4-1-4-1 .. he score form free kick ..
tomorrow i have match with him .. which formation you advice ?!
I really don't think the problem is coming from the formation, because 4-1-4-1, does cover everything, without having too many players in the back. A Red arrow on the DMC, will help though.
I can't properly advice without knowing more, : (Quote:
kebess same as mine OP . last time i lost 1-0 he was playing 4-1-3w-2 .. and me playing with 4-1-4-1 .. he score form free kick ..
tomorrow i have match with him .. which formation you advice ?!
In the worse case scenario, if no formation seems to work, either take your best players and build a formation around it, or simply play the same formation as him... 4-1-3W-2 (if your team is better); then monitor your orders in the live game.
Start with something standard, like Normal mentality, mixed passes, hard tackles (if you're behind on the possession), no trap, no counter.
Then change it accordingly. If you're not having enough shots, try switching to attacking mentality and see what happens, or putting red arrows on ML/MR, and trying flanks passes for a while, that sort of things.
When nothing seems to work, you really need to be active in the game, and be ready to change things following the logic of the game.
thank you very much now i understand ... let's see i'll playing with 4-1-4-1 cuz last time i have 58 % ball possession it's effective formation i had many attacks but nothing goes well ...
maybe if i switched to 4-5-1 V style 2nd half it will be more risky.. but you will never know if you never try .. right !!
editing the orders ..
playing normal .. i want to try thru middle , own half , hard, mixed passing , zonal , counter attacks
What formation are you using for this ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ṃř Sǚffệŕḝṝ
4-1-4-1
Then I recommend no counter-attack. Your defense is good, but if you allow him to keep pressing, he might score. And if you're going through the middle, then try putting arrows on the MCs (instead of the ML/MR).
The rest seems nice, : )
And don't hesitate to change things accordingly, if it's not going as expected. To be completely honest with you, it's the only thing that anyone can be truly sure of.
Good luck !
that's sound great .. i'll do it :o
now i have to take rest before match begin
i post the result .. thank again kebess :)
guess what !! kebess i won 2-1 .. thank you i appreciated your help it was super helpful ...
i started with passing thru middle , he score first but my shoots is more .. so as you said don't change if it's not going as expected ...
then i score ... after that my ST shoot the "Bullet of mercy " i score the second goal and have 2 chances to score more but the luck safe him LOL :o
You're most welcome Sufferer, :) Really glad it worked out !
i'm glad we just have " man of tactics and formation" in this planet LOL :o
Haha, thanks for the compliment, : )Quote:
Originally Posted by Ṃř Sǚffệŕḝṝ
Thanks for the advice, luckily for me the guy in my league who used it has switched to wide diamond, and beat him 3-1 away. He is also a massive token buyer, though not for scouts, went over 100 rounds for his dmc and paid £122 Million for him.
