Is Narrow Diamond getting out of controll? (like 4-4-2 back in the day)

[Eugen Cristea]

When i play vs ND, all my players get a -1(minus 1) rating compared to all the other games vs different formations, it doesn't matter if i play against a good or a bad team.
I use 4-1-3W-2, and change it to 4-5-1 V, in game. My normal formation is 4-1-4-1 [doesn't work]
Today i lost 2-1 away in CL vs a team similar to mine in quality, changing between this 2 formations.
And the first 2 matches i won 2-1 and 3-5, against bad teams. But very bad games! (yes, i have 3 ND's in my CL group)
V style is the old counter, and 4-1-3W-2 is the new one, but none of them work )

Is this a problem for other "managers"?

I would really like to win the CL again, and i have the best team so far in the competition.
But there are sooooo many ND's in the leaue, some with decent teams.

So what have you used successfully, in the last season and this season?

[Dman2pt]

I always use 352V Style Never had problems against ND

[BIG BETY SWOLLOCKS]

Strange one that bro i always use 4-1-3w-2 and have never had any problems against nd or had -1 rating was you away from home and did he have supporters ???

[mhmd_kasem]

Never had a problem against narrow diamond
Play 3-4-1-2
or 4-3w-2-1 xmas tree against weaker teams.

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[Irie_Ites]

Strange one that bro i always use 4-1-3w-2 and have never had any problems against nd

u mean 4-1dm-1mc-1ml-1mr-2??and what is the orders, thank again in advance fella

[Saransh Vatsa]

I always use 352V Style Never had problems against ND

Yes.... 3N-5-2 V style always works........ 4-5-1V used to work but has lost its touch and 4-1-3W-2 is still new counter and it has 50-50 chance. 3N-1-2N-2W-2(v style) covers ND properly. The 3 DCs are good enough for the 2STs and even the AMC and attacking MC. The DMC directly takes on the AMC which according to me is the heart of the ND. the 2 MCs equalize the opponents two MCs and the 2 wingers avoid the DMC and are good for attacking and feeding the STs. 2 STs are there against 2 DCs to finish things off. By using this formation u can go down the flanks and attack while ND comes through the middle and gets blocked your DCs and DMCs

[Irie_Ites]

but it seems that could be not enough mc`s,my dmc with only 3 stars. would it be enough?or better put one more mc with blue arrow instead dmc? and what is the best 3 dc`s or dl,dr,2dc for me?my attackers are good but they r not scoring enough and i dont know why no matter if i play with 2 or 1 st`s
and please advise about orders .TY

[Saransh Vatsa]

A DMC is important because, as I stated, AMC is IMO the heart of the ND. U need a player to take him on face to face and restrict him so as to stop him from feeding the STs.

[Saransh Vatsa]

3N-1-2N-2W-2 works!!!! I won today against an equal Q opponent in cup and two of my three goals were scored by my AMR and my AML.

[Irie_Ites]

ok man, i`ll try, but in my situation (3 star dmc) what would be better 3 dc`s or 4 defenders?and what about the orders?thanks in advance