Table of Counter Formations - What to use?

[Appel]

Hi I am a rookie (2) 16.7 average quality and just played an away game vs apprentice (3) 18.6 who yielded the 4-5-1 V.

I received a +4 Bonus and therefore managed to have a 53 overall possesion.
Game stats:

So how did I manage? I think a part of it is because of my fast DMR and DML, they were fast enough to counter his AMR and AML, thats why I decided to use man-mark. I used a long passing tactic and focus on center and red arrows on my DMR, DML, MC,MC and one MC blue arrow. Pressing only own half and normal tackling. Ofcourse I used counter attack.

If you have some feedback I would love to hear it. PM would probably be the most appropriate way.

[Appel]

What to use agains 4-1-3-1-1 formation (dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--amc--st)? does anyone plays 4-6-0 formation (dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--aml-amr)?

First of all, I am a rookie.

But it is clear that your opponent is going to try to dominate the midfield. You have 2 options, in my opinion. If your players have more quality use the same tactic. And play through the middle. The other option is to go around him, although this might not be to easy.

Since a DL-DC-DR tactic might, since he has a AMC, fail. You could try a: DL-DC-DR-DM-ML-MC-MR-(MC or ST)-ST-ST and go around him. And a blue arrow on MC, as he probably uses counter with red arrows on 2 MC

I think a 4-6-0 is illegal, so You might want to use one midfielder as a ST, and put blue arrows on the MC, since he, most likely, is using counter. Ofcourse you have to use both flanks. Another good option is to use either AML or AMR and one ST, since you will use 1 flank to attack him on. Try to have a header in front of the goal.

So to cut things short, try to use:
1. DL-DC-DR-DM-ML-MC-MR-(MC or ST)-ST-ST (dominate both flanks, zonal, and counter his attack)
2. dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--amc--st (you counter all his position, manmark, if you are stronger you win)
3. dr-dc-dc-dl--dmc--mc-mc-mc--(aml or amr)--ST (use one flank attack, manmark)

If you are equal in strenght you can use all tactics. If he is stronger, you might want to use 1, and hope for the best. If he/ his players are slightly stronger 3 might be an option.

Good luck,

And let me know what the results are.

[asuPOLITEHNICA]

i lose the match 3-5-2 flat vs 4-5-1 flat,and he have much weaker team...so you should delete if from above...

[Kapancuervo]

HI, great post, I´d like to get some help on this one:
My opponent is playing 4-1-1-2W-2 at his home (playing in a couple of hours).

--------GK(22)---------
-DR(16)-DC(29)-DC(25)-DL(24)
--------DMC(23)--------
--------MC(24)--------
AMR(25)---------AML(20)
-----ST(27)-ST(27)-------

We have almost the same level (about 24) , I´ve seen the 3-5-2 butterfly as counter but i don´t have AML on my team (and only one player playing as DML/ML, I also have only one good MC (25) and other one at 20 lvl.
This is the team i´m planning to use THIS 3N-3W-2-1-1:

-----------GK(28)----------------
DC*D(24)-DC(21-wall)-DC*D(22)
DMR*D(24-DMC*U(33)-DMI*D(29)
---------MC(25)-MC(20)---------
AMR*U(24)-----------------------
-------------ST*U(39)-----------

My AMR can play as AMC, also 24 DC as DMC, DMR as DR, DML as ML and DMC as DMR too, so i wont have troble to go with 4 defenders as I have a 27 DL in the bench.
Mentality normal, easy takling (he has a FK specialist),attack from sides, mixed passing, counter, no offside, pressing own pitch
*U for up and *D for down instructions

Also I have a 24 DL, a 27 MR, a 23 AMC/AMR and a 25 ST in the bench,tell me please if i have better options!!!!

[schaumir]

Counter Formation 2 - 3W - 3N - 2, help me now. Tnks

[Ro Edu]

for one who know that 4-1-2-1-2 narrow beat the **** out of 4-4-2 ... now explain this for the home team ?

[Machak_g]

hi guys !
looking for help here . i did a good job so far with countering different formations and tonight i am playing guy with this formation:

ST
MC MC MC
DML DMC DMR
DC DC DC
GK

quite def.
what should i play ?

[Azlen Affendy]

when using 4-5-1 v style what are the setting that is used?

[Machak_g]

when using 4-5-1 v style what are the setting that is used?

there are few things you should consider :
-mentality: go for attacking against weaker teams and def against stronger
-put attacking arrow on the DMC to effectively turn him to a MC when you are attacking.

if u are going against lets say 4-4-2 then:
Passing: Mixed
Pressing: Own half without offside trap or full pitch with fast defenders and offside trap.
The others do not really matter, just make sure your opponent has no AM when you do the offside or counter attack.

if u are going against 3-5-2 then u want to force an attack through the wings so put arrows on DL and DR and go with:
Passing: mixed, through both flanks
Pressing: own half
Zonal marking
counter attack

i hope this helps

[nazor]

how about team order...team mentality..focus pass ..pressing style..tackle..passing style?please