problem is i don't have DML and AML:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Ramsey Tiong
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problem is i don't have DML and AML:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Ramsey Tiong
Hi again, I have searched whole thread but cannot find a counter for 4-1-4-1...it has not been mentioned yet so I ask for it, since I ll be facing it tomorrow at champions final:
-------------ST-----------------
---------------------------------
ML------MC----MC-----MR-------
------------DMC ----------------
DL -----DC------DC------DR-----
His team is better than mine and I bet my socks he has motivated wingers, any tips Adel ????
Do you have DML & DMR also AML & AMR?
If so
------DC--↑DC↑--DC
--DML---------------DMR
----------MC--MC
--AML---------------AMR
-------------ST
AS he is better and playing counter down the flanks.
Normal, both flanks, own half, normal, short zonal No OS No Counter.
If you can gain possession but not creating much switch to mixed passing, but keep an eye on possession you don't want to start losing to much.
If your holding him at HT try putting red arrows on the AML/AMR, or start that way if you want to try and surpries him, if it gets desperate, switch to hard attack add red arrows to the DMR/DML and pray. :D
If you should get the lead switch to hard defending put down arrows on your AML/AMR, long passing mixed focus.
Hi. Need some help to beat a token drugged team in the CL final. He's using a 4-3-1-2 with wide midfielders.
------ST----ST
---------AM
ML-------MC-------MR
DL---DC-----DC----DR
His average quality: 34.3
Mine's: 29.7
Yes at last topic is now a sticky =), Good job.
I got every position covered but are you replying to my question? a bit confused since many requests around :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Accyrover
Hello everyone. I read all the pages on this thread, but I have to ask again.
I play today (for 7 hours) Champions league Final against much stronger opponent. So my average quality is 104.2 and his 108.7
He plays 4-4-2 formation. What formation should I use, and is there any chance to win this match.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Alex.
what is ur best starting 11 squad?Quote:
Originally Posted by prince_alex
for this case use 4-3-1-2 is good with AM behind 2 strikers,
but i need to know what is ur best 11 starting squad if u can post a picture asap here..
ofc u can win, as final CL play in neutral place, come watch it for +8% possession and play attacking..
if u have 3 good MC,play through middle,
if u use ML-MC-MR play down both flanks..
normal tacking,own half pressing,zonal marking
dont use counter,u are attacking,
use offise trap..
I have 4-5 friends who will come to support me on this match.
I have dmc with golden star, but he can't play because of red cards.
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Anyone? Got match in 5 hours. Help very much neededQuote:
Originally Posted by Jylven1982
if you just looked at 1st page :) you will see thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoai Vu Nguyen
4-1-3-2 Wide
DL-DC-DC-DR
DMC
ML-MC-MR
ST-ST
Countered by 3-2-2-2-1
DC-DC-DC
DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
MC-MC
AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
ST
Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
OR
Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing
Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:
3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.
then use 4 4 2 classic with normal mentality ... short passing ... red arrows at DR/DL & MR/L.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manolis Ma
and motivate with money bonus.
4-1-3-2 WideQuote:
Originally Posted by Jylven1982
4-1-3-2 Wide 3
DL-DC-DC-DR
DMC
ML-MC-MR
ST-ST
Countered by 3-2-2-2-1
DC-DC-DC
DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
MC-MC
AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
ST
Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
OR
Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing
Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:
3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.
yep finally my friend :)Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
I think because he is like or better than you ... then you must play with 4 4 1 1 ... with motivation by money bonus ... normal mentality ... short passing ... red arrows at DR/L & MR/L & AMC ... inshaa allah you will win :)Quote:
Originally Posted by prince_alex
Thx for reply, but I didn't ask for help against 4-1-3-2. I asked for 4-3-1-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adel Gamal
Same tactics applies there, or is there some better?
2 hours to match
Lost 1-0. He scored in last minutes. 57 possesion for me, but I lost.
How do I anti this formation?
GK
DR-----DC-----DL
----MC MC MC----
AMR----------AML
----ST---ST----
does this consider as a 3-5-2 formation?thanks in advance :)
Hard luck :(Quote:
Originally Posted by prince_alex
did u watched the game?
-----------ST------------Quote:
Originally Posted by iradical
AML-----------------AMR
------MC--MC--MC-----
DML----------------DMR
----------DC--DC--------
Mentality: Usually normal, but I recommend going defensive with hard tackling if the opponent's team is better, and attacking if the opposite.
Force counter: Yes
Passing: through both flanks with long pass
Pressing: own half
Zonal marking
Adel, not nice advising someone to give away 80% possession.
2 x DC = ......... naughty manager.
Maybe you meant to put up the butterfly:
------DC---DC---DC
DMR-----------------DML
------MC---------MC
AMR-----------------AML
------------ST
IMO
DR-------DC-------DL
-----DMC---DMC
MR-----------------ML
-----AMC----AMC
----------ST
Would be better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adel Gamal
alright thanks bro :D
How To Beat 4-5-1 V Style?
I konw to use 4-3-2-1 like this:
--------------ST-------------
AML-------------------AMR
------MC----MC----MC----
------------------------------
DL(UP)--DC--DC---DR(UP)
But what to do in Orders?
I've just won 4-0 the cup final against a 4-3-3 team with same average level as mine, but with 3 5stars attackers. I used:
GK
DR(UP)-DC-DC-DC-DL(UP)
MR(UP)-MC-MC-ML(UP)
ST
It's basically a defensive variant of the butterfly module.
I used normal mentality, own half pressing, attack on flanks, normal tackling, zonal marking, counterattacking, no offside trap.
Hope this helps other players that have to face 4-3-3 with strong STs.
What can beat 3-3-1-3?
ST-ST-ST
--AMC--
ML-MC-MR
DC-DC-DC
attacking ... down both flanks ... long pass ... no counter .. no offside trap :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Idan.Rox
4 1 3 1 1Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
ST
--AMC--
ML-MC-MR
DMC(Up)
(Up) DC-DC-DR(Up)
normal ... down both flanks ... mixed pass .. own half ... counter attack ... no offside trap
Yes. Me and 5 more friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adel Gamal
it's something from 2 ... 1- your opponent is better than you or like you even.
2- it's a random result again and we used to hear or experience this from time to time :)
hey man,my opponent moved one of his MC to DMC so what do i do now?Quote:
Originally Posted by iradical
how to beat 341?
ST-ST
--AMC--
ML-MC-MC-MR
DC-DC-DC
i think i wanna try 451 vstyle.. but i need advice from you guys :)
it will works wellQuote:
Originally Posted by senz777
How to beat 3-2-3-2
DL---DC---DR
--DMC-DMC--
ML--MC--MR
--ST-ST----
it my cup match, manager lvl4. neve seen this before. almost same quality teams
Hello i'm kinda new on here and learning the tactics
today i got level up now 2 level rookie :)
but i think i have a big problem with todays cup match with a 6 level proffesional :)
What do you think i can beat him :)
His formation is this...
------ST------
ML-MC-MC-MR
-----DMC-----
DL-DC-DC-DR
what kind of tactics should i get to beat him :)
My overall rate is 14,4 stars his rate is 39 :)) any chance to get maybe over penalties :)
ty for help...
DC-DC-DCQuote:
Originally Posted by Kasper89
DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
MC-MC
AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
ST
Short passing, Mixed, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
OR
Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing
Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:
3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counter attack and no offside trap.
first of all you don't have any hope to win but anyway see this :Quote:
Originally Posted by donvito
DC-DC-DC
DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
MC-MC
AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
ST
Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
OR
Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing
Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:
3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.
I once thought that if I counter the opponent's tactic every game I would win every match. The truth is that doesn't happen. Had and saw games in which exactly a counter tactic loses badly, of course had games that win with difference, but again - it's not a certainty
Now on lvl 20 I can see only a few almost sure patterns:
- Best tactics to play are 4-1-3-2 (3mc), 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 (mc-mc /aml & amr). No idea why, but in the last days of the season I check almost every player from my friends, champions league and cup to see what is the best team in their league and most of them play this way.
- Best players to buy are the most expensive as they grow faster. You may already know it.
- Important players in terms of special abilities to have are AM's Shadow Strikers, FK striker, CS any player but mainly striker and aerial defenders.
Explaining: The shadow striker has immense scoring and assisting every season, best of my players for 4 seasons now.
FK striker (of course logically already has more attacking than anyone else in a team, first because of his stats when he comes out of the shop and second because we tend to raise his attack) is almost every time the top scorer in a league because a lot of goals come from free kicks.
CS striker for the same logic has high crossing and almost always is a top assister
and for the Aerial Defender - I don't know why they tend to be so good but in my league last season there was a team that on the 15th round had GD of 36-2 with 4-starred full backs who were 10-12 quality behind his CD's who were aerial defender scouts and the guy just didn't concede.. He conceded twice in 15 matches in a 5-2 win and i don't remember if he had played both of them, but every time he did - he was immortal. I bought a defensive wall scout for DC before i knew that and although he is good, I can't really compare them.
Did not see any effect of playmakers, dribblers or PK specialist (penalties are rare you may have figured it out already). One-on-one scorers and stoppers sometimes do good - I prefer having this kind of player.
Maybe I'm not telling you anything new but for the reality of the game and my 20 seasons of playing this is what i can help you with
If I had a chance to have an all-scout team, I would play:
---------ST (FK)--ST (CK)--------
AML(SS)-----------------AMR (SS)
-------- MC(any)--MC(any)-------
DL(DW)--DC (AD)--DC (AD)--DR(DW)
------------GK (1on1)
Today I played against an opponent with a much weaker team than me:
4 3 1 2
DR/L .. 2 DCs ... one MC .. ML/R ..AMC ... 2 ST.
He won 2:1 in the Cup at his home. Now tomorrow is the rematch. I played this game with a 4-3-2-1 (DL-DC-DC-DR * 3x MC * AML-AMR * ST) But I did not have good chances, he counter attacked me very dangerously thorughout the entire game.
What can I do better?
And to the Thread-Author: Could you add all the variations of the tatctics that are being discussed in the 16pages on the front page? That way there will be no repeating questions... :)
how can i beat 3-1-4-2??? his team is a little bit better...
4-1-3-2 WideQuote:
Originally Posted by Tristan Consten
DL(UP)-DC-DC-DR(UP)
DMC(UP)
ML-MC-MR
ST-ST
as you lost the first game then you should play to win 1/0 ... so the mentality is attacking ... mixed passing ... whole pitch ... no counter attack ... no offside trap.
and you can play with 4 4 2 classic with counter attack and short passing and normal mentality ... own half ... no offside trap.
