How can i defeat a 4-1-4-1 formation

I just qualified for the Champioms league final, and my opponent is using a 4-1-4-1 formation, not only that, his players are 5-6 stars which is my biggest fear cos i only have few 5star players. So i need help on what formation to use and the orders. Pleeaaassseee.....! Thanks!

central formation with counter attacks, normal mentality 3w-5-2 with blues on your wingers or 3w-4-2amc-1 with pressing and short passing. I don't think you will need a dmc as he is likely attacking flanks mixed or def flanks long. Look at his previous match sheets and determine where his tendencies and threats are.

Also, this belongs in formations and tactics.

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Originally Posted by HoofDaddy

central formation with counter attacks, normal mentality 3w-5-2 with blues on your wingers or 3w-4-2amc-1 with pressing and short passing. I don't think you will need a dmc as he is likely attacking flanks mixed or def flanks long. Look at his previous match sheets and determine where his tendencies and threats are.

Also, this belongs in formations and tactics.

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Thanks a bunch:)

Exelous, do post the results here. I won't recommend a formation to counter his formation as despite him having high quality players, he might have work hard to get his team into the final and he would be very disappointed if he looses to a lower quality team. I prefer to let be between the 2 managers involved only.

3-4-1-2.

I lost against this fomation in my CL semis :mad:

If the oponent have better players, hard trackling.

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Originally Posted by La Morralla FS

3-4-1-2.

I lost against this fomation in my CL semis :mad:

If the oponent have better players, hard trackling.

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Does that mean: 'if the opponent have better quality players, go break their legs' ? :p

Well, he changed his formation to 3-4-1-2, while a played a 4-1-2-1-2 attacking through the middle. To cut the long story short, i won 1-0.

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Originally Posted by Exelous

Well, he changed his formation to 3-4-1-2, while a played a 4-1-2-1-2 attacking through the middle. To cut the long story short, i won 1-0.

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So, you have a beaten a team having much better quality than you. It seems that he did not attend the match.
May be you deserved to win.

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Originally Posted by Tactician

So, you have a beaten a team having much better quality than you. It seems that he did not attend the match.
May be you deserved to win.

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He attended the match but got more supporters than him. Dunno if that count though:rolleyes:

Then, may be you deserved to win because his formation is not the best to beat 4-4-2 diamond (unless he made an effort to change it during the match). Both formations appear to cancel each other as given that his quality is better than you, you had 2 more player in defensive positions (as compared to 1 for him) to prevent his advantage of quality in attack, which explains why he could not get a goal. Still, you could have lost the match though as your formation was not the best either. :p
May be the orders for each team made the difference there. What mentality did you use?
The extra supporters could have contributed too, which reduced his possession, and hence he had less opportunities to build attacks (hence, the 1-0).

Grats man, I knew you'd figure it out on your own

If you've you've got to the CL final and haven't been changing tactics all the time, trust that your formation and style is working! You maybe came across great teams before and didnt expect to get this far! But as Monaco and Porto have shown.... it's all about the manager! Trust yourself and your players who got you this far!

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Tactician

Then, may be you deserved to win because his formation is not the best to beat 4-4-2 diamond (unless he made an effort to change it during the match). Both formations appear to cancel each other as given that his quality is better than you, you had 2 more player in defensive positions (as compared to 1 for him) to prevent his advantage of quality in attack, which explains why he could not get a goal. Still, you could have lost the match though as your formation was not the best either. :p
May be the orders for each team made the difference there. What mentality did you use?
The extra supporters could have contributed too, which reduced his possession, and hence he had less opportunities to build attacks (hence, the 1-0).

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My orders were, Attacking,through the middle,short pass,on counter attack,own half and tackle hard.

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Originally Posted by KoronaChelsea

If you've you've got to the CL final and haven't been changing tactics all the time, trust that your formation and style is working! You maybe came across great teams before and didnt expect to get this far! But as Monaco and Porto have shown.... it's all about the manager! Trust yourself and your players who got you this far!

Good luck!

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Thanks! Wish you all the best this season!

Not with a 4-3-3 LOL