Cannot beat 4-2-2-2

haha.. i think ur player not suit the 451v system :P
how about ur win bonus? maximum? morale? condition?

win bonus 7.5, morale- max! condition- never below 90...

If a system is failing that counters the oppositions attack it's usually just the game engine having it's way with you.
If it happens all the time against the same formation something is wrong with your orders, the only way to rectify this is by tweaking them slightly as you never know what the opponents orders are, the game engine gives you clues as to how he is playing, IE. ST (a) passes short to ST (b) or DC/DR/DL/DMC hits long ball up field all through the game.
Last night I changed orders four times, on paper I should have won comfortable, I had almost 70% possession away, no joy, 1-0 defeat, sometimes you have to accept, the game engine wins, not your opponent. :D

I think 4-1-2-1-2 can beat 4-2-2-2, dr and dl down, dmc up, with normal,mix pass to center, next day i have a match vs 4-2-2-2, I will update result . Hope ! ^_^

Well, I am one dmc and one amc short....
Today I have a match against my arch rival and I'm gonna try this:

-------ST-----ST----
---------AMC--------
ML----------------MR
---------DMC-------
DL--DC-----DC--DR

4-1-2-1-2

The match is in 50 minutes.... What do you guys think?
Should I change something? Should I go for narrow diamond?

Hi Mate !
For the 4-2-2-2 i can say to you that i used this formation many times but i lost different times. Here is the formation i lost with by 0-1.

his formation = 3dc-4ml-mc-mc-mr-3st : Result i lost 0-1 even if my team was better !!!
his formation = 4dl-dc-dc-dr- 3mc- aml-amr-st : Result drow 5-5 . My team was more stronger than his team and i have many special ability players. He didn't have none !!

his formation = 5-1-1-1-2st i won at 89' for a freekick. Strange formation this one.

my orders are attacking- both flanks- mixed/long passing -own half preasure- no counter - no offside. :(

I have a match against this 4-2-2-2 in champions he is stronger than me i dont know how to bit it.


Another formation i need help about is 4-3mc-aml-amr-st ! I really cant win this one !! Does anyone know how to win this?

-----------st----------
aml-------------amr
--------mc-mc-----
dml------------dmr
-----dc-dc-dc-----

Flat Formation, but possible add down arrows on DML and DMR to boost defence if required.
Short or mixed passing, down both flanks, with fast defenders use offside trap, pressing whole pitch in attacking mentality OR
Normal or defensive mentality, pressing own half with force counter and mixed passing.

Update about my match against 4-2-2-2...
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I played 4-1-2-1-2 wide, Defensive, mixed, own half, long, zonal, counter on.
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My friend had a match before so he didn't play his best players and they were tired. Here are our ratings:
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I got a red card at 43' and barely managed to win 3:2.
Didn't feel like a big win for me :\