What's the best way to beat 4-5-1V?

[nash123]

I won the Triple this Season (3), I conceeded max. 2 Goals in one game.

After the last game today, I made some friendlies to try some counter-formations and all of them worked - beside 4-5-1V. And the worst thing of all, Iost vs 5.2 weaker team. It was a reallife-friend, so we made the following tests with the same conditions every game:
Both: full condition, full moral, no winbonus on friendly, no fans at all.

He always plays:
normal-BDF-mixed-off
low-normal-zonal-off

1st try:

3n-2w(DML/DMR)-3n(MC)-2 (ST)
offensiv-mixed-long-off
low-normal-zonal-on

1:4


2nd try:
3n-2w(DML/DMR)-3n(MC)-2 (ST)
normal-mixed-short-off
low-normal-zonal-off

0:3


3rd try:
3n-2w(DML/DMR)-3n(MC)-2 (ST)
normal-DBF-short-on
low-normal-zonal-off

0:3


4th try:
4-3n-3
normal-TTM-short-off
high-normal-zonal-off

0:2


5th try:
4-3n-3
defensive-mixed-mixed-on
low-normal-zonal-off

0:3


6th try:
4-2n(MC)-2w (AML/AMR)-2(ST)
normal-mixed-mixed-off
low-normal-zonal-off

0:2


7th try:
4-2n(MC)-2w (AML/AMR)-2(ST)
offensive-mixed-mixed-off
low-normal-zonal-on

0:3


Last try:
4-5-1V on my own
normal-mixed-mixed-on
low-normal-zonal-off

3:0 win (He only had 2 shots on target)


So is this possible? Is 4-5-1V "overpowered" or was it my tactic-set? I mean, I used the known counter, but nothing worked.
(I tried it, because I don't can handle 4-5-1V and ND... yesterday I was so lucky to win CL 1:0 - I (4-5-1V) had only 4 shots on target, my oppo (ND) 9. My Keeper saved 7.)

[Abhinavsharma]

Hi
These are not permanent stats.Sometimes you lose with that formation and sometime you win. JUST KEEP ON CHANGING TACTICS.

[nikolgiorgos]

also 4-5-1V, 4-4-2, 4-4-2 ND. 4-1-4-1
but avoid to play attack

[Abhinavsharma]

also 4-5-1V, 4-4-2, 4-4-2 ND. 4-1-4-1
but avoid to play attack

Niko he have won triple crown.He can do it

[Duncton]

I'm getting pretty decent results with 4-3N-2W-1 (normal, flanks). You could give it a try.

[nash123]

Niko he have won triple crown.He can do it

With little help from you at 2nd leg in (Cup) 1/8-Finals and 1/4...

The reason, why I opened this thread, is, that I want (to try) to understand how to create (counter) formation for specific formation/tactics. So I can try to change during a game. For example: Last season I was down 0:1 (~60'), switched some tactics and from this moment, opponent got 8 shots on my goal, I got nothing... only two yellow cards... -.-

Another example: 1/8 Finals in Cup... 1st leg I don't know, what I should do during the game (after 0:2)... I was downed...
For the 2nd leg, Abhinav told me formation and tactic I never tought about something like that before... and destroyed his dream of the Cup...

Today I had a really hard cup entry: ~2 points stronger opponent (1 level above). He was their with some friends. At half time, it was 1:2. Changed tactic and one position: won 5:2.
So I think, I'm on the way to know what I'm doing... but I also saw, Cups will be harder (especially for me, because I like my team/players and like the hold them - so it's okay, to get hard teams. For sure, goal is to bring the Cup home - but if it isn't able, I just want to give my best in every game.)

[Andrew Nifield]

Its 4 3 1 2str? I believe more it's your tactics than your formation, squad weaknesses and all that stuff.

As a formation 3 4 3 or something like that. 3 CM, 4 flat, with 3 attackers.