How to beat butterfly/ 451v team 20% higher Q

[stinkybg]

Hey guys. I am level 10 manager. I never knew about this forum or fast trainers. Been playing just by my football knowledge and had done not bad. Had league 1 and cup 1 and league 1 and cl1 but never a treble ( of course its possible withtout tokens or fast trainers knowledge) so this year i learned about this forum because last year there was a guy whit this 6-7 stars team in my league who owned and another guy in cl 1/2 who i beat and was not sure anymore if they are token buyers and started googling and found this forum. Anyway i am rebuilding my team. Gonna tank this season. And my veterans are also using butterfly 451v. Thats what i used last 2-3 season. How to counter this? He is using butterfly as a guess normally and 451v as a home. Its 1/8 finals if i beat him the rest of the cup is gonna be a walk in the park ( he beat the second best team last round and i beat the 3rd best team. Other side of the bracket just some weak managers, giving all their money and tokens for young players but dont train them ( just like me 2 weeks ago )) btw last round i used 4141 w def and counter should i stick w it or go for a 433 (4321, 4312 ) approach which supposedly beats 451v and butterfly but it seems like a suicide for me since his attackers are like 2*+ my defenders



p.s I believe in miracles

[stinkybg]

Hmmm not so many specialist after all.
Draw 2:2 away with 33w31 and lost at home 1:2 4141 vs 4141 but guess did a mistake. My dmc is a mc too. Should have switched to 451 instead of going head to head with a stronger team

[stinkybg]

But i guess doesnt matter what i do. **** that ronaldo

[Crvena Zvezda]

Hey guys. I am level 10 manager. I never knew about this forum or fast trainers. Been playing just by my football knowledge and had done not bad. Had league 1 and cup 1 and league 1 and cl1 but never a treble ( of course its possible withtout tokens or fast trainers knowledge) so this year i learned about this forum because last year there was a guy whit this 6-7 stars team in my league who owned and another guy in cl 1/2 who i beat and was not sure anymore if they are token buyers and started googling and found this forum. Anyway i am rebuilding my team. Gonna tank this season. And my veterans are also using butterfly 451v. Thats what i used last 2-3 season. How to counter this? He is using butterfly as a guess normally and 451v as a home. Its 1/8 finals if i beat him the rest of the cup is gonna be a walk in the park ( he beat the second best team last round and i beat the 3rd best team. Other side of the bracket just some weak managers, giving all their money and tokens for young players but dont train them ( just like me 2 weeks ago )) btw last round i used 4141 w def and counter should i stick w it or go for a 433 (4321, 4312 ) approach which supposedly beats 451v and butterfly but it seems like a suicide for me since his attackers are like 2*+ my defenders



p.s I believe in miracles

Hi, U have two possibilities to play against 451V-style.
First one is 3N(DC)-2 (DML/DMR)-3N(MC)-3. That's defensive options.
Second one is 4-3N-3. Offensive one.



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[Crvena Zvezda]

Hey guys. I am level 10 manager. I never knew about this forum or fast trainers. Been playing just by my football knowledge and had done not bad. Had league 1 and cup 1 and league 1 and cl1 but never a treble ( of course its possible withtout tokens or fast trainers knowledge) so this year i learned about this forum because last year there was a guy whit this 6-7 stars team in my league who owned and another guy in cl 1/2 who i beat and was not sure anymore if they are token buyers and started googling and found this forum. Anyway i am rebuilding my team. Gonna tank this season. And my veterans are also using butterfly 451v. Thats what i used last 2-3 season. How to counter this? He is using butterfly as a guess normally and 451v as a home. Its 1/8 finals if i beat him the rest of the cup is gonna be a walk in the park ( he beat the second best team last round and i beat the 3rd best team. Other side of the bracket just some weak managers, giving all their money and tokens for young players but dont train them ( just like me 2 weeks ago )) btw last round i used 4141 w def and counter should i stick w it or go for a 433 (4321, 4312 ) approach which supposedly beats 451v and butterfly but it seems like a suicide for me since his attackers are like 2*+ my defenders



p.s I believe in miracles

VS Butterfly 3N-2-2-2-1 also 2 possibilities.
4-2-2-2 or 4-3MC-2 AML/AMR-1

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[nikolgiorgos]

also 3Dw-2DMC-2MC-AML-AMR-ST

[HairDryer]

i notice and have great success against 451v for the past 3 season with 442classic. i always start with 442 against any formation only change during game if need to. 4141 451v or 451flat having 4 defence and 4 or 5 midfield give a good balance in attack and defence.