Just wonder: are short passing and counter compatible ?
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Just wonder: are short passing and counter compatible ?
Definitely yes,many times I have seen oppo player losing the ball then 2 of my players changing short passes until one of them scores
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I beat a higher quality 3w-1-2n-3w-1 with a 4-3n-3 a couple seasons back in associations.
Gizzmo, have the match finished? I have an also upcoming match against this formation.
Already experienced players given their tips, I'd like to share mine too :)
3w-1-2-3wam-1
2 season before one manager use this formation and kick me out of the cup, I use 3w-2dmc-2-2wam-1, so fail (doesn't mean others can't win).
Last season same manager comes in league n CL both, not only that another manager on league also use same 3w-1-2-3wam-1, so 4 in league 2 in CL, total 6 matchs against that formation and 6 win, this time I use:
3w-1-3n-1-2 through the middle, normal
3w blue, amc red (amc was aml+amc+st)
That's all, have fun :)
Btw, all teams were same q. One more point, last match CL manager change his formation on second half, like instead of 3w he change to 3n def 3n-1-2-3w-1
I change right way too, send my amc to play as ST and send both ST to cover wings (aml/r). [mentality change too]
I have played the match, used the one that Gizzmo was thinking of, everything started well and I had 2 goals, suddenly the opponent scored 2 goals by penalties in about 60s and I changed my formation to that Nik advised, then scored one another goal. I was the home side, oppo manager was inactive, and the quality difference between us is 35%. Oppo manager will play with full effort in the second match, as he will see that I could not beat the pants off him even the quality difference is so considerable and I am active. Very hard 2nd leg is waiting for me, and my 2 key players will miss the 2nd leg. Here are the statistics;Attachment 77987
I played with short passes, , low press, normal tackling after I conceded 2 goals I changed it to long. After changing formation I changed the focus to mixed from through the middle.
I played mine too. Opted for Nik/Madflo's version 3W-2DMC-2MC-2WAM-1. But chose normal mentality/counter/mixed passing with no pressing. I was flying during the whole game (3-0 ahead) when I stupidly selected man to man (1st time ever I use this, probably last) only to concede 2 goals. Still, I have a huge advantage before second leg at home but I am p... off with these two goals: definitely deserved more a 4-1 than a 3-2 considering the stats.
Overall satisfied with the advices! Thx mates !
Cup final against the same tactic. Same settings for me: as in the previous match, fantastic start (2-0 after 8 mins). Then, slowed down a bit. 2-1 at half time, switched to high press: 4-2 after 75 mins. Then, striker injured (no more available, put a MC in and parked the bus). Then, direct red card to one of my DMC, free kick, 4-3 and a thrilling (happy) end. My conclusion, it works but might not be the ultimate counter.