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Hi,
I followed the table of counter formation today but I lose, my opponent was playing 4-3W-3 and I was playing with 4-5-1 V-Style as the table suggest I don't know why!!?? has anyone have as explanation please?
Finally How to counter him next (CL) match?:confused:
TIA
Orders, arrow, team quality, player form, condition, morale, random calculation, trolling all comes into play.
counter formation need update and also realize 451v is not that effective anymore. my case.
ehmm....did you read the date of the post? It was 4 years ago....
To be honest, this table is pretty much correct eventhough I prefer the update on page 61. Fortunately, it's not always correct: these are not the tables of law! The game would be rather tame if one has just to follow a simple recipe. The quality of oppo matters, orders matter, luck matters...
I got your point but I still don't know how to counter this formation??
The updated table is post #659 on page 66...Quote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo
There are a few more options there, it's more recent and relevant. Don't know what the * is against some of the formations, though.
Some of the more recent formation innovations aren't included, from my POV that's the 2DMC defences and the 3AMW attacks, so probably needs an update - in its own stickied post?
3N-5-2F, 3N-1-4-2. 3N-1-5-1, 4-4-2, 4-5-1VQuote:
Originally Posted by msdn70
If you've tried 4-5-1V and that failed, try 4-4-2 Classic. Other than that, 3N-1-4-2 is a good option which I've had a modicum of success with against 4-3W-3.
I don't believe in 4-4-2 Classic since I always beat it with my beloved formation 3-1-2-3-1 so I will go with 3N-1-4-2 and I will tell you tomorrow the resultQuote:
Originally Posted by talisman
I really appreciate your reply, thank you
Ive been playing 3N-1-4-1-1 for a few seasons now.
Alternate between AMC-ST and 2 ST depending on opposition formation (whether he has a DMC or not).
Have had success against 4-3W-3 using it.
But, with any formation having 3ST, Ive had some problem in conceding from corners.
So, you can go with 3N-1-4-1-1, so long as the 3DCs and DMC are good at heading.
This is needed to ward off the threat from wings too.
Ten consecutive treble ( maybe the 11th this season ) and never use this table , always play one or 2 different formations during all seasons ...
Hi,I've often had same issue vs formation using 3W midfield and amc-st or amc-2st or 3st.Quote:
Originally Posted by msdn70
It depends on dmc performance,as he has to counter both central mc and amc or central st (if opponent uses 3st),
and he often misses them.
On the other side,my 2 mc seemed not to care about central opponent mc,that's why,when using v-style,
one of my mcs is placed central,so to force oppoent mc to play defensive and not supporting attack.
otherwise 3-1-4-2 or 3-3W-2-2 and variants with amc,can be used.
This issue with opponent mc, also creates destabilization on flanks, where opponent ml and mr are constantly supported to finalize.
About orders,it's often said that if you let those kind of teams play,they're really hostical,so offensive strategy should be preferred to defensive one, depending on how strong they are.
I generally start defensive ,switching offensive when required. In order to avoid risks coming from pressing ,i use short pass and play flanks.
However,if you absolutely need scoring lot of goals,switch mixed or central
Nice analysis, Now I have to select between 3N-1-4-1-1 and 3N-1-4-2 I will check which will fit more my team :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by gamer5289
Thank you
I have added this in a reserve post #2Quote:
Originally Posted by talisman
That's right!Quote:
Originally Posted by woopypooky
We need more match to check and finish one counter formation.
And for me, a good couter formation is while a weaker team can beat a stronger or much stronger team !
I do not understand your mocking footnote if you only used 2 formations in 11 seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz
I firmly believe in the table. From time to time, it fails or is unaccurate and that's a good thing. People tend to think they have a good counter just because they won the game. Which is a completely different story.
He is a troll, don't pay attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo