Help from Pro Managers needed !!!

Hello everyone,
I have heard similar confusions like me from few guys who have been playing this game since a long time.. So I am asking this out of curiosity..

Before when we used to manage line ups && move players using arrows (up/down), I felt very comfortable.. I was consistent in results.. Now with new system Im totally struggling.. Every season..

Placing players higher or lower in his area has not been equally effective like up arrows or down arrows.. So can any decent player explain me how the system works now?

For example: when I used to play 41221 I had my AML/AMR with up arrows.. Now to have same effect should I place him on the top of his box??? Please tell me about positioning of players in new system.. Thank You for reading :)

i believe it still the same as old arrow method, but this new positioning method will give you many freedom where to order your player to play either to the right/left/up/down,

it will help you to pack your player somewhere and will give you enough player in specific zone if you focus your play there,

unlike old arrow method, it just UP/DOWN, not much option you got especially for pack the player somewhere

for example, if you want focus your play on the left flank by using this new positioning method,
its better to move your MC to the very left edge on MC zone,
so, your MC will give extra man at left flank to help your left winger
but, your MC probably will left MC zone when playing at the flank and need time for him to return back to MC zone while defending and may riskier if your MC got low speed

and your left fullback also will support at the flank if you order him to play forward.

if you put your winger top of his box and all of his circle still doesn't enter the ST zone, i believe he will not entering ST zone

if you want your winger to enter ST zone, perhaps you should place your winger until some of his circle enter the ST zone.


you need to observe your opposition player also, for example, if oppo MC position is UP forward, that MC will enter AMC zone while they are attacking and that MC will return back to MC zone while they are defending, so you need to order any of your player to enter DMC zone while defending to mark that oppo MC.

if you put your player at the center on specific zone, (no orders), he will keep remain playing at that zone either for attacking/defending

something like that

Really helpful.. Thank You.. How is your season going? Just want to know :)

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

Really helpful.. Thank You.. How is your season going? Just want to know :)

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i manage to get treble, but that 2 loses is because of trolled, next season my 100% win target still continue

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effects of position I have noticed in game: MC pushed forward did participated more in attacks. In one game tho was late to defend and got red.
DL and DR run box to box if placed even slightly forward, even on defensive mentality. good or bad, judge for yourself. if pushed back and as close to CD box they do not cross the centre except on rare CA here and there.
AML/R and ST I have NOT seen any obvious difference in action. it may only be prefered position when they are idle, really not limiting their behaviour.

Man that's crazy.. I have never won treble .. looking at your season it's incredible.. I'm sure your team is much stronger than mine.. Still wanna know what formation do u usually play? Also it looks like you don't play defensive mentality..

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Originally Posted by Agger99

Man that's crazy.. I have never won treble .. looking at your season it's incredible.. I'm sure your team is much stronger than mine.. Still wanna know what formation do u usually play? Also it looks like you don't play defensive mentality..

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something like 4-5-1 V, but it depends on how my opponent orders theirs players and depends on their weak spot also,

sometimes i play 4-3N-3 if oppo weak at center because both my wingers also can play as ST and my DMC can play at MC as well.

this is the example if i found oppo weak at left side so i will focus my passing at the right flank

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one of my DC (no.4) will enter DMC zone while im attacking and will return to DC zone while under enemy attack
another DC (no.2) will remain at DC zone.

maybe no.4 will late to return to DC zone because he got low speed, that's why i need to ON offside trap,
the lesser the defenders is the easier to execute offside trap anyway.

DL will protect my left back
DR will help to enter MR zone while im attacking and can return to protect DR zone without any problem because he has high speed

DMC (no.12) will enter MC zone while attacking and return to DMC zone while defending

MC (no.10) will remain play at MC zone
MC (no.11) will present at AMC zone while attacking, and will present at MR/MC zone while defending
at the same time pack the right side area

AML will remain play at left flank and press oppo DR if i play High pressing.
AMR will enter ST zone while attacking and will press oppo DL while defending because of High pressing.

ST slightly down so he will present at AMC area while my team is defending and will charge to ST zone while attacking,
and sometime will play like dummy, this also will help him to avoid being caught offside because of not too forward

i will start with normal mentality if facing either stronger or almost equal strength oppo and switch to attacking mentality if my passing complete more than 88% after 30 minutes

and always play attacking mentality if facing weaker opponent

well, this is just my believe the positioning method work this way, and stick with that

Brilliant.. You are treble winner so can't argue.. I want to see how to do against opponents who are around 5-10% stronger than you.. Also do u play offside trap in normal attacking mentality? Also what about focus passing, passing style && counter attack?

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Originally Posted by Agger99

Brilliant.. You are treble winner so can't argue.. I want to see how to do against opponents who are around 5-10% stronger than you.. Also do u play offside trap in normal attacking mentality? Also what about focus passing, passing style && counter attack?

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i only play defensive mentality if facing opponent which has marked "favorite",

10-15% stronger is not so big gap, no favorite mark, i will start with normal mentality,

and switch to attacking mentality if both of below happens after 30 minutes
i) i got higher ball possesion
ii) i got more than 88% passing complete

ON counter attack with mixed pass if opponent don't have DMC and change to long pass if the counter not really work.

short pass will just make my counter attack slower. long pass will make the counter faster,

focus passing is depends on where the weak spot of the opponent defenders.

if i want to focus on specific flank, i will make my MC and side back to go near to that flank.


in normal mentality, i will play ON offside trap also if opponent don't have AMC

because AMC is difficult to trap the offside. and AMC is very dangerous if they play counter attack.

so, i will OFF offside trap if opponent got AMC in normal mentality

but always ON offside trap if i play attacking mentality, this is because one of my DC left their zone and i need to do offside trap.

if i want my ST to press opponent DMC, i will play high pressing if only they got DMC.. because my ST got high strength skill.

what i mean high skill is the specific skill that got higher value than their overall quality value

the key to play effective and efficiently:

i) focus the attack at the weak spot of opposite defenders either by counter attack or aggresive attack

ii) give enough player to protect the area that opposition strong in attack. (just enough don't over protect)

so critical analysis on opponent squad before the match is required when facing almost equal strength or stonger opponent.

and don't ever underestimate weaker opponent if they can reach final or semi final cup or champion league, they may have mutant or they may focus their counter at our weak spot

Well nice explanations.. I always play defensive, down both flanks, mixed passes, counter on.. High pressing, Man to man , offside trap off.. Overall its good but I dont win titles every season.. Maybe I need to try out more tactical stuffs..

Could you tell me about High or Low pressing and Man to man/ Zonal marking.. I mean what do they do and against what type of opponent should we use?

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

Well nice explanations.. I always play defensive, down both flanks, mixed passes, counter on.. High pressing, Man to man , offside trap off.. Overall its good but I dont win titles every season.. Maybe I need to try out more tactical stuffs..

Could you tell me about High or Low pressing and Man to man/ Zonal marking.. I mean what do they do and against what type of opponent should we use?

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high pressing - all your players will press any opponent player all over the pitch, even your ST will press oppo Defenders
Low press - your player will only press the opponent when they enter your own half of field

man to man marking - your player will select one opponent to be marked, they don't mark other player after decide one player, riskier if your player is weaker in strength/speed/etc and may lost the one on one battle, and other player will not support after one of your player lost the one on one

zonal marking - all the player will mark any opponent that enter to their zone

High pressing and man to man marking will tired your player fast, low fitness player will make your team always concede in last minute

remember only use man to man marking if each of your defenders is stronger than opponent attackers.

if you play defensive mentality, i bet you will put many defenders, so play high pressing will be not effective because you don't have enough man to press all over the field especially at opponent half side.

the more defenders you use is the more difficult to make offside trap success.

if you play defensive mentality with many defenders, the only way for you to score is through counter attack, and long pass will make your counter faster,
but that doesn't guarantee you to score because your chance created for scoring is very less since you not possess the game

My main formation is 41221.. When I play defensive.. I have always gone with High pressing && man to man against equal or strong team. Got mixed results..

I want to try Normal mentality.. Would suggest me what should I do with it against good teams.. I mean high/low press, counter on/off, Man to man/zonal && offside trap?

I am tired of not winning any trohpy so I need to change something.. My team is 104% right now so its not a weak team too :)

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

My main formation is 41221.. When I play defensive.. I have always gone with High pressing && man to man against equal or strong team. Got mixed results..

I want to try Normal mentality.. Would suggest me what should I do with it against good teams.. I mean high/low press, counter on/off, Man to man/zonal && offside trap?

I am tired of not winning any trohpy so I need to change something.. My team is 104% right now so its not a weak team too :)

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i think you should able to figure it based on what i've explained in this thread

i already explain what high/low pressing meaning and about zonal/mantoman marking

and i already explain that critical analysis on opponent player and to compare each of your player with opponent player is required if facing equal or stronger opponent, so you can decide is your defender strong enough to having man to man fight against your opponent attackers?

and the key to play effective and efficiently is to focus the passing at opponent weak spot and protect your area that opponent strong in attack

you don't really need DMC if your opponent don't use AMC or non of your opponent player will enter their AMC zone, so what is the function of your DMC if there is no opposite player for him to marked?

and you can using the AMC or order one of your MC to go forward to the AMC zone when attacking if your opponent don't have DMC,

if you can understand all those thing, you can choose the suitable tactic against any type of opponent by yourself,

Nice analysis man.. you are indeed a pro.. I want to share you my biggest drawbacks of the game..

When I'm against equally strong team and I go down by a goal I rarely win the match.. I don't know what to do.. What would you do in such scenario? Your suggestion would be helpful.. I also play with 41221 with defensive mentality...

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Originally Posted by Agger99

Nice analysis man.. you are indeed a pro.. I want to share you my biggest drawbacks of the game..

When I'm against equally strong team and I go down by a goal I rarely win the match.. I don't know what to do.. What would you do in such scenario? Your suggestion would be helpful.. I also play with 41221 with defensive mentality...

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i think you shouldn't play defensively when against almost equal strength opponent, always start with normal mentality unless you are facing opponent with "favourite" mark

if no favourite mark, start with normal mentality and change to attacking after 30mins if your passing complete 88%++

as i said you should focus your attack at the weak spot of your opponent to play effectively and efficiently.

don't you know how to identify the weak spot of your opponent?

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Originally Posted by adifairus

i think you should able to figure it based on what i've explained in this thread

i already explain what high/low pressing meaning and about zonal/mantoman marking

and i already explain that critical analysis on opponent player and to compare each of your player with opponent player is required if facing equal or stronger opponent, so you can decide is your defender strong enough to having man to man fight against your opponent attackers?



and the key to play effective and efficiently is to focus the passing at opponent weak spot and protect your area that opponent strong in attack

you don't really need DMC if your opponent don't use AMC or non of your opponent player will enter their AMC zone, so what is the function of your DMC if there is no opposite player for him to marked?

and you can using the AMC or order one of your MC to go forward to the AMC zone when attacking if your opponent don't have DMC,

if you can understand all those thing, you can choose the suitable tactic against any type of opponent by yourself,

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Thanks a lot man.. Appreciate it a lot.. How can I add u in Top 11? If through FB please do search "Sujan Van Gerrard" .. The guy with guitar is me.. :)

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Originally Posted by adifairus

i think you shouldn't play defensively when against almost equal strength opponent, always start with normal mentality unless you are facing opponent with "favourite" mark

if no favourite mark, start with normal mentality and change to attacking after 30mins if your passing complete 88%++

as i said you should focus your attack at the weak spot of your opponent to play effectively and efficiently.

don't you know how to identify the weak spot of your opponent?

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How to identify the opponent's weak spot? Please tell me..

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Originally Posted by adifairus

i think you shouldn't play defensively when against almost equal strength opponent, always start with normal mentality unless you are facing opponent with "favourite" mark

if no favourite mark, start with normal mentality and change to attacking after 30mins if your passing complete 88%++

as i said you should focus your attack at the weak spot of your opponent to play effectively and efficiently.

don't you know how to identify the weak spot of your opponent?

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I dont know how to identify opponent weak spot... Can you explain please?

Hi @adifairus;
My friend this tactical orders please..

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

How to identify the opponent's weak spot? Please tell me..

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1) the area that lack of players
2) the area with weakest or low quality players
3) the area with player rating turn red that reduce to below 6.5 during live match

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Originally Posted by adifairus

1) the area that lack of players
2) the area with weakest or low quality players
3) the area with player rating turn red that reduce to below 6.5 during live match

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Thank You so much man.. Appreciate it..

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just click on them, then on "free"
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