JULY FOURTH or ANYONE???

[KNN]

You could try 3N-1-4-2. With mixed passing and mixed focus.

Thanks, was looking towards your advice. I have been a fan of your thread and appreciate your effort in coming up with the table. It has been a great help.

[Nicky]

I will face a similar formation tomorrow in champions semifinal.

Though he hasn't an excellent team, just 29.8 quality in level 4 (mine is 38.4), he has knocked out 2 stronger teams (37.8 and 32.4) and reached undefeated the semifinals.

He plays 4-1-3W-2 and has won against 4-2-2-2 hex, 4-3N-1-2,4-3N-2-1, 5-3-2 and 4-4-2.

The only team that managed to win him (2 times) played a 4-5-1V but was very strong (40.5).

I'm going to play with the hexagon away from home and 4-5-1V or 3-4-1-2 at home.
I'll tell you about the result

[Master Tactician]

I would suggest a 3-5-2 variation with 1 DMC.
3-5-2 seems the best way to counter it. In real life I think it's the obvious solution. In top eleven, as well. Just because someone lost by using this it doesn't mean that it's not a short of counter formation. The logic behind this, i think is right.

btw, I am really wondering if all these discussions has any point in top eleven. I shorta believe the game doesn't care tooooo much about your formation.

[Kilgharrah]

Hi friend, i used to have the same problem with a player. I started using this (i am a fan of keep your defence to a zero and you get a point at least). The thing is i just won 7-0 today. I play normal, passing mixed (no flanks or center, mixed), press on own haf, exept if i have a strong opponent so then i press on all (i guess u will do the same when you meet your archrival), tackling normal, and the most important thing, because i play counterattack (nomatter what the opposition) i use long ball. I have played dozens of Football Managers and the worst thing you could do to me was to make me play long ball. I prefer short passing (Barcelona style) etc. But with long ball, your Striker and AMC are a constant danger. Now for a few tips. DMR and DML have red arrows cause they cover the whole side and the NEED to help in the attack. I also have red arrow at my AMC (who has a talent as a hidden attacker? I am from Greece and i don't know the translatipon exactly but it's a talent that ONLY AMC's get). I also put a red arrow on one of my MC's and the other one nothing exept if the match is dangerous sto o put blue arrow to make him help my DMC. Also all 3 of my DC's have blue arrows. I don't care about offside trap, i care for them to be back and protect me. If you would like give it a try. Remember u have to have very good DMR-DML and AMC (having good defenders and a DMC doesn't hurt either Hope i helped...
------ST------
-----AMC-----
---MC---MC---
DML---DMC---DMR
---DC--DC--DC---

[KNN]

btw this is my team quality and formation

This is his formation

Our league standing

[Chris Rath]

Someone in my cup plays with this formation very sucessfully. It seems to be a 4-4-2 killer.

That 4-1-3W-1-1 player got 1 loss so far, against a 4-2DMC-MC-AMC-2ST (2-3, although he was superior by 2 points: 43.1 vs. 41.0). Finally he went through by changing his formation to 4-1-4-1 in the 2nd leg, the only time he changed his formation so far.

So 4-2DMC-MC-AMC-2ST beat that once, but I don't see it as an ideal counter. July's tip makes more sense to me, but I would go with 3W-1-4-2 instead of the narrow defense to get more wing support.

[Rev Dino]

Maybe weird, but I would try good old 4-4-2 motivated