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My mate won league with a weaker team by goal difference last season against me and we were put in champs league group together, I struggle wit the formation he plays and anyone else that plays it! It's 3n dml/dmr 3n 1amc 1st, any help would be great
Anyone with any help on this because I've searched the forums for that formation and found nothing on it
It seem like dis?
--------st--------
-------amc-------
--ml----mc----mr--
--dml--------dmr--
-----dc-dc-dc---
No. As long as I understand it looks like:Quote:
Originally Posted by fadhul17
-------ST------
------AMC------
---MC-MC-MC----
DML---------DMR
----DC-DC-DC----
Literally a 5-3-2 (3-5-2 when attacking) formation with very attacking fullbacks (DMs) (I suppose) + a libero. I guess he attacks mixed (he tried to add depth with DML/R) and if they are red and good he succeeded. Otherwise it's a monotonic "through the middle" approach with 6-7 defending and then counter attacking.
For me, it's sooo boring and defensive (and inefficient as well)
I've never met in Top Eleven this formation but I would try either 4-1-3-2 or 4-5-1. The lack of wing presence is a sound weakness. therefore any formation which attacks down both flanks would be just fine. To be honest though, I don't think I would ever change my tactic for this.
Ooops, sorry my fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Tactician
It's variation of 3-2-3-2. I suggest you 4-4-2 diamond. Normal mentality, through the middle, mix passing, zonal marking with normal tackling. No counter attack/offside trap. Id guess, he is playing defensive with counter. :)
Yeah that's the formation alright, if I play down the middle will he not catch me on the wings with the wide players? Frustrating to play against but struggled to find the right formation against him and I have to play him 4 times at least this season
which formation have you used?
If you play with fullbacks+ wingers and through the flanks you'll outnumber him. If you play with 3 AMs you'll put pressure everywhere
3-2-3-2 is actually a variation of 5-3-2 or 3-5-2. No actual need to play only through he middle, I can see your thought, though. With only 1 player on each flank he can push from flanks as well if he has both wingers and fullbacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by fadhul17
I like you! :D can i add you on facebook? inbox me ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Tactician
thnx dude. You can add me here. AMs, btw not ACs :P
Through the middle is the last place he wants to be attacking! down the flanks where hes only one player!Quote:
Originally Posted by fadhul17
What r u talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by herdo
Well, he can attack from everywhere. It depends on his players and formation. If he has good MCs and AMC then he can easily go through middle. It just has to be highlighted that with only 1 player in each flank, there is a chance to create 2-1 situations through the flanks.
On my view, this kind of formation-tactic (deep defense, with 5(!) defenders and 2 MCs defending--> 2 rows of defenders), own half pressing, etc is old, boring and very very vulnerable to modern football, like 4-3-2-1 christmass tree, 3-1-4-2,butterflies, even 4-4-2s etc. There are chances that these kind of tactics can work (eg Greece euro 2004), but only in some cases during a match or in cases where you want to control the score. Never as a main formation for a whole season. It doesn't work on professional football and I can't see why it can work in Top Eleven.
Thanks for this info, his amc and striker are pretty good probably his 2 best players and a good dmr so I was thinking he attacks through the middle and leaves the dmr/dml to just defend so he is kind of using 5 at the back. He used it all last season and won the league with it and hasn't lost a game yet this season! I beat him with his own formation away but he beat me when I used 451v style and my team is about 5.0 better. It just seems to work against teams
Last season the champion in my league was using a 3N-3W-2N-1-1,even more defensive, he won the title unbeaten and with a goal difference of 110, also won the champions league with only one defeat 1-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Tactician
Is it that hard to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by fadhul17
3w-1-5-1 or 3w-1-4-2 if u want to force the game. easy!
Cheers for the tips lads il post results up tommoro after the game
Went with 3w-1-4-2 and went 1 nil down and possession was even enough and in 60th minute went with 4-4-2 and scored twice in 5 minutes but never dominated the game so I can't say either are that effective against that formation!! I have him again tonight and I'm going with 4-5-1 v style defensive counter attack down flanks and I'm away so I think it might work!! Doesn't matter I'm still goin to qualify from the group it's just a bit of experimenting wit formations now
how about..
---------st---------
--aml---------amr--
--------mc---------
-----dmc--dmc-----
--dl--dc---dc--dr---
normal, force counter attack, own half, both flanks and put red arrow on dl and dr?
Won 4 nil away with 4-5-1 vstyle but the stats were even, 50 50 possession same amount of shots on target and everything, I'm happy with the win but its like no team can control his team, think I have him figured out anyway and that formation thanks for the advise from all of you, what we've learnt is mark the attacking mc and catch him on the flanks with wing play
Possession is not everything in football. You want to play like barcelona but how about lost a game like last semi-final with bayern?
In real life, its'not. In top11 I think it's more than 80%.