Alternatives to Top Eleven?

I'd like to find another football manager to play alongside to Top Eleven, since it's not always satisfying.
I tried PES Club Manager because I thought it was the best one, but it's very far from what I'm looking for. The UI is really messy and too cluttered with informations, news and stuff. It's too heavy and graphical, you can activate a 2D simulation of the match, but it still start and finish the game with 3D which is freaking stupid. It's slow if you use a low end smartphone, it loads too slowly every section of the game, before trying to understand every strategy option the first half ended. If I think that Top Eleven has too few strategy options for the team, PES has too many! Really TOO FREAKING MANY!
The tutorial doesn't cover everything, it didn't explain every icon over the players, what they do and what happens if you put them outside the (too freaking many!) roles. At a first glance TE has a role managing much easier to see compared to PES.
And also, I'd like to start a team from scratch. A few minutes after I started it offered me a player to buy, the best one was Neymar. What? I didn't even start and I get to buy Neymar? I play a first game that I win and that's ok for a start, but I was already playing in a huge ass stadium. After that I already see the Champions League opening, and the player market was already showing me Cristiano Ronaldo. I'd like to earn my best players and a place in the top tier competitions after playing in a potato field after wartime! It may please the majority of players, but not me. I'd like to get a ****ty team and try to make it an all star team in the end!
And in the end, it gives too many bonus, too many rewards, too much news, too much stuff everytime you open it just to give you that fake feeling of accomplishment that so many games have now.

Top Eleven was just perfect when I started 3 years ago. Easy to play, hard to master, it took years to complete my stadium and earn my trophies. 1 season each month makes every season important. You get eliminated from the cup and you have to wait a month to get your revenge, and it's not frustrating as it looks like, on the contrary it makes you work harder to get to the objective. It's just perfect for me, except that it's showing its age and despite the updates it still has problems that are not fixed yet.
I still think TE can have many advantages compared to other games, but it will fail soon or later unless they change the engine.

What I'm looking for is:
- Easy and friendly interface. Top Eleven just nails it for me.
- Lightweight game and close to no graphics, just a 2D simulation of the game or just commentary is fine. I don't need flashy menus and stuff
- Start with a low rank team and build it slowly to become a champion
- Online or offline is ok, but with only a few games to play every day just like Top Eleven. That makes you feel how important every match is, and you have to make some planning.
- More team strategy options than TE that makes you feel that you have the control of the team, but not too complex at the same time.
- Funny and rewarding, even if it takes time. I play a game for fun and I like it to beat me before I can master it.
- Free with in game purchases is fine

Any good suggestion?

I'd like to see the options for alternatives too. It's obvious the development team doesn't care about a lot of the intricate team strategy in the game, and since uninstalling the app from my phone I have grown increasingly disinterested in the game. I'd definitely be interested to see if there's an up-and-coming game that's doing good things.

Did you try Top Football manager? It's something similar to top eleven

check this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHHViyIyQc
for PES it saying at 1.13
more than 5.000 real players
what ? :(

ITSAGOAL.org - Online Football Manager Game - Free Soccer Manager ?

Used to play it for four or so years. There's no simulation. No IAPs, though you can subscribe and get some addtional options, e.g. change your team name or whatnot. Nothing that would influence outcome of the game.

It's very much a long-term game, there's no way to speed it up.

Small community with dedicated players; around 1,000 managers or so.

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ITSAGOAL.org - Online Football Manager Game - Free Soccer Manager ?

Used to play it for four or so years. There's no simulation. No IAPs, though you can subscribe and get some addtional options, e.g. change your team name or whatnot. Nothing that would influence outcome of the game.

It's very much a long-term game, there's no way to speed it up.

Small community with dedicated players; around 1,000 managers or so.

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I will give it a try, looks nice

Currently I'm playing OSM and top eleven planning to play top FM,

I'm trying both OSM and Top FM. Clearly it's a genre that requires time, but at a first glance they are both nice.
OSM has an easy interface and looks very slow paced as I like it, but I've yet to play the first league game.

Top FM is kinda surprising to me, very very similar to Top Eleven, most features and visuals are just identical, except it has more features. Full time simulation (not just a few repeated actions), you can chat during the game and send messages to every other manager which is something we have been asking for some time now. Associations are there, tournaments too, and you get a Tour option where you play with another similar level team to raise your level and trying to get to top rank. Stadium section similar to TE, transfers are like the old TE system, token and packs are there.
Plus, it loads very fast and is visually nice. 2D and 3D simulation is there but is very lightweight even on my phone. I've seen many people playing, some matches had up to 40 people supporting the teams!

Tactically speaking you get some options similar to Top Eleven, but some others are more precise about the attack. You can choose which side to attack, if you want to try crossing or shooting from the center. Finally, it is not that hard, isn't it Nordeus?
I tried a few matches, and with long passing the players kept making mistakes, the ball went out of play more often. With playing only on the flanks I couldn't go through.
I don't know if it will change later, but I like it this way, so I have a visual validation of my tactical changes.I guess that with each opponent and depending on your players skill you have to change tactics accordingly. At last, I would say!

I'm actually liking it for now, but as I said it takes to time to actually find all the flaws, so I will see how it goes. If it's good, Top Eleven surely can take some suggestions from this game.

EDIT: Another feature I just discovered and that I like, if you lose an auction, the lost tokens will be converted in scout points which you can use to find the players you want considering your stars requirement.

EDIT 2: If you start a game and you are getting lower on condition, you will get a warning telling you that the players won't perform at their best. At least you know what condition % is good to play. In TE it's just a mystery...

EDIT 3: You can click "like" on a particular goal during the game (even if you are just a fan) and there's a daily ranking of players that got the highest amount of likes. Daily, Weekly and Season, and you can rewatch the goals any time.
This game sure doesn't lack features.
I won my first league game 0-6 against a low quality bot. What I noticed is that he got 0 shots on target while I dominated the game. At least it's realistic on this. TE seems to generate a minimum amount of activity even if there's a huge difference between teams.

Very appealing. Let's see how it works :p

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See how the abilities work. Some players already have a special skill, that you can unlock by clicking on it and then train it. It's pre-chosen and you already know what the players is able to do. In TE you choose among a bunch of them and we still don't know how and when they work. I think it's much more transparent this way.
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gonna folow you to that game also............lets try it, now that here in top11 is morea nad more a pure rolling dice results.......do you believe that yesterday on my 2º game in cup semi the ass manager says that we tied ( when i win 0-1 at hes home, and in that right moment the score was 0-0) and let get the things the way for 2º half, i though to my self, how in the hell can we be tied if is 0-0 atm and i win at hes home 0-1???? and BAMMM!!!! opo scores.......WTF????? so ass manger knows the future??? or result was already ritten on game code??? of course i lose 0-2....and im out of cup........more interesting is that on 1º game we were both managers on, hes is a bit better then me, like 3 or 4% and the final result was 0-1 for me......on second game he didnt even showed up...i fear yhe worst when i did not see him online...me managing with 6 suporters....ass manager gessing the future......afater all my intents to change things, nothing...team didnt react..after switch tatic..mentality...orders.... nothing..nothing changes and he manages to get to finals without even managing hes team..............we gotta love this :mad::mad::mad:

I tried all football manager, and I can say TE is the best video game for football management,
it's not perfect but is better than other, specely in US, gameplay and other option.

What I hate in top eleven is the new system of Market Transfer that's all

finally top eleven if the best for mobile platform

It's true n t11 know that as wellllll :)
Unless users/players change their addiction. :p

I don't like they're trolling system, TM part, bothers me when try to sell my players, I don't go for bidding war.

I like the look of this Top FM game; it seems to come off as doing better in terms of actively assisting with the human aspect of the game. Without that sort of connection, I've grown distant from Top 11 and lost my passion for it.

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Did you try Top Football manager? It's something similar to top eleven

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Yes but it´s really ****e :)

After more than one week Top Football Manager shows its flaws. It's unstable, sometimes crashes or doesn't generate the results if you are not watching the game and you have to relog later.

However it has many features that Top Eleven is missing, and Nordeus could implement better. Matchwise it has more options and the live simulation seems more plausible. Example: I was 2 goals down and played all out attack, I scored 1 goal but conceded 2 more in 2 merciless counterattacks. It seems to respond quite well and that's what I'm looking for. And do not forget a global, regional or even direct chat.
Still not better than Top Eleven, but probably with a better support from the developers (or simply with a better developer) it could be great opponent for Top Eleven.

Anyone tried 11x11 looks similar to TE with ground buildings and stuff,

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Anyone tried 11x11 looks similar to TE with ground buildings and stuff,

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Yes,
It´s terrible cartoon like...no a cartoon would be better

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Yes,
It´s terrible cartoon like...no a cartoon would be better

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Gosh, TE really has a grip on us. Don't other companies want to make money,make a good football manager game, like there aren't enough games that start with "Clash of...":p

Yep. A really good football manager game would be a wonderful thing.
Maybe we'll see some in another life...
Or in the one after that.

Top FM played, uninstalled.
PES Manager played, uninstalled.
Top Eleven, still playing.
Would it be boring if there was nothing to complain about?

yea wtf, every interest fb game I can see it's about survivors/ killing zombies :eek:

Ive been playing an awesome online browser manager game called Managerleage.
you start with a team of around Q73 with three 17yo's in divisjon 4 or 5. Theres around 20 different leagues and as i'm english i go into the english league playing against all English players. The aim is to promote to div 1 and finish in the top 4 to play in champions league and europa league against all the best from other nations, they also have a cup winners cup like the good old days. The season lasts a month and yoh play 2 league matches each day also any cup matches that ur involved in. Training is twice a day and these are used to improve players fitnes ready for the match. You can play 100 friendlies a season and these are used to improve the attributes of your players making them better. The support are spot on and answer any queries straight away. Il post a few screenshots in a minute

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ok but is it better ? why ? where ?

Top football manager could be better than top eleven, but their devs can't even speak English

Time to start searching again.
Top Eleven has a limited number of seasons left for me.
I'm not going to continue to waste my time and energy struggling to get videos for rest packs, to train players, when I have no idea how today's announcement of changes to training will affect my team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, another threat to quit. But honestly, they don't care, do they?
Money, money, moneŷ.
TOTAL CONTROL.
So I'm going to spend the next couple of months trying other games whilst my resources dwindle.
I'll either find something else or lose the monkey from my back.

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Time to start searching again.
Top Eleven has a limited number of seasons left for me.
I'm not going to continue to waste my time and energy struggling to get videos for rest packs, to train players, when I have no idea how today's announcement of changes to training will affect my team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, another threat to quit. But honestly, they don't care, do they?
Money, money, moneŷ.
TOTAL CONTROL.
So I'm going to spend the next couple of months trying other games whilst my resources dwindle.
I'll either find something else or lose the monkey from my back.

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Yeah me too ! Will stop when my mutants will be 32 years old lol

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See how the abilities work. Some players already have a special skill, that you can unlock by clicking on it and then train it. It's pre-chosen and you already know what the players is able to do. In TE you choose among a bunch of them and we still don't know how and when they work. I think it's much more transparent this way.
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hi. please can you refer me to a link to download the game. I'm on android

Three pages and no one mentioned Hattrick.org.

Yes, its rather complicated, offers no instant gratification (like T.E.) and its even farther from the real football.
But its nicer on a couple of aspects: community, national teams and youth clubs. It takes years IRL to make an amazing team tho.

The most interesting online game was Football Manager Live but that was discountinued and will prolly never rise again.

Thanks for the review... Going to try top fm... Good review u mhave made, buddy...

Well, there's a game that has some of T11's concept, Champion Eleven. It even got Pep Guardiola as their brand ambassador too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJeyu2USz50

This is really interesting, as Mou finally got a challenge.

Any asian users can tell me whats this game and if it is available in the west too?

Its like a gacha football?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZjJozkDUls

Hmm interesting, did anyone find a better manager game?

Hattrick. Try it.

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Hattrick. Try it.

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Thanks man

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Thanks man

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its a tough game. its a slow process. for 2 or maybe 3 years you won't be winning much if you are haeding i the right direction. i highly recommend that if you want to play it then go through its manual, house rules and forum.

I've played the game since it was launched, developers have turned the game into a must pay to play. I tried to get my team relegated on purpose to try and develop my players and yet they still downgraded my players. I refuse to spend another penny and I have now started playing Top FM much more enjoyable and in 3D

probably dream league soccer

Top Football Manager is similar to TE with 3D graphics. Miss the match. No problem. Watch the full match replay later. You will not want to after some time. Same boring animations over and over again. Only the first week or so while it is still a novelty.

Must manipulate draws and tank and well. Easier to with no best 14 limitation, keep full starting lineup. Cup and CL can go many levels higher. Allows user to place bets on matches. Lose to weaker abandon teams very often whenever it is a tight race as well. Dominated by Viet, Indo and Thai teams. Hall of fame is also user created with mostly Asians.

OSM is pretty good imo. Play whenever you have time. Leagues start throughout the month so you never lose out. You can build up beautiful stats while taking breaks. You can also plan according to your schedule. There are leagues that last 2 months and some that last less than 20 days. No watching live matches. We can only watch replays.

My issue with OSM is the resources which is really only the cash. Whatever you save isn't yours to keep. Also this is more like a trading game while TE is a training game. If you do not like spending time at the auctions, this is not for you. You get ahead constantly trading players. Do not remember training being a significant part of this game.