Borrow Players?

In real football, many clubs chose to borrow a player if they have many injuries for example.

As for me. I do play 3-2-2-1-2 with (2 MC) and they have a tendence to get injuried all the time.
So it would be a nice addition to the game if it was possible to "borrow" a player for a number of days. I have instead been forced to buy 2 new MC since my orignal two became injuried for about a week. Once they are back i dont really have any use for FIVE MC's as i have now.

Just fix so it's possible to borrow players from rather just computer teams, or maybe even real ppl teams.. borrow a player for 1 week for let's say 5 tokens?

Just an idea.

Listen Tommy,
I have thought of that idea too, but look it this way. Let's say your level 1 and you have a level 4 friend. You will be able to borrow legend or superstar players? It doesn't make sence. Besides let's say both you and your friend are level 1. The chance would be liek 2/10 if somebody lends you a player from his reserves,not to mention his first 11.

If this idea would be included sometimes, everyone would get offers from other players to borrow. It would be like when you get an 0 token offer via negotiations. You will understand what I'm saying when you reach level 5-6

Besides, even if you email Nordeus they won't include the idea.
So that is how things stand...

Yes you are probably right.
I more ment that it's an option to lend players from robot teams. And lvl 1 can only borrow from lvl 1 and so on.
But it was a bad idea.
For me it's no problem to buy 2 extra players if i need them. I just sell them once i get my players back - and do the same process again if needed. But not everybody use tokens and then they can't do what I do. And i feel that it's not fair.

It is bad that tokens make such a big difference in this game... I get whatever player I want. And maybe against a player who has collected tokens for a long time but still dont stand a chanse vs me in a bid.

Get my point?

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Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson

Yes you are probably right.
I more ment that it's an option to lend players from robot teams. And lvl 1 can only borrow from lvl 1 and so on.
But it was a bad idea.
For me it's no problem to buy 2 extra players if i need them. I just sell them once i get my players back - and do the same process again if needed. But not everybody use tokens and then they can't do what I do. And i feel that it's not fair.

It is bad that tokens make such a big difference in this game... I get whatever player I want. And maybe against a player who has collected tokens for a long time but still dont stand a chanse vs me in a bid.

Get my point?

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You could always include them in a tab in the transfer market, where you loan a player for the rest of the season - I guess it would work like negotiations, but you have to put them there instead of them automatically being listed.

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Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson

Yes you are probably right.
I more ment that it's an option to lend players from robot teams. And lvl 1 can only borrow from lvl 1 and so on.
But it was a bad idea.
For me it's no problem to buy 2 extra players if i need them. I just sell them once i get my players back - and do the same process again if needed. But not everybody use tokens and then they can't do what I do. And i feel that it's not fair.

It is bad that tokens make such a big difference in this game... I get whatever player I want. And maybe against a player who has collected tokens for a long time but still dont stand a chanse vs me in a bid.

Get my point?

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Yeah I understand what you are saying but... :)
Bot robot teams? Well you are level 1 and there are at least 4 robots in your league. But if everyone borrowed players from robot teams then those teams wouldn't have players for playing,or there could be a limit like all the reserves.
Like you said a player for 1 week for 5 tokens. You can buy a player on this ****ty market for 5 tokens and have him for as many seasons you like.
What if that player you borrowed got 5 and 6 ratings, you wasted your tokens. If you find a player like that in the market you can still sell him.

That is why this isn't such a good idea...

I think this is a good idea. Use it as a separate tab in the transfer market, where just like on the TM you can only borrow players of 3-5 stars. I think spending tokens for the players works well. The whole point that makes this work is because if you dont spend money to buy tokens, if you have a strong team, you may have a 3* fast trainer, but if they arent good enough to make your team, they arent progressing like you would want. So to lend them out to a lower level team would be perfect

Exactly RJSlow. I recently sold away an 18 year old 5* quality 27 striker cuz he didnt perform good enough and trained pretty slow.
I would prefer to lend him out for the rest of the season to another club so he get experience and games. So once i get him back - his maybe good?

Just as in IRL football u can only borrow a certain limit of players per season. And you decide for how long.. weeks/months or the whole season. Future release fee or simply get him back when the time has passed.

Another idea would be that every team has a youth team where u can send your players to gain experience.

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Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson

Exactly RJSlow. I recently sold away an 18 year old 5* quality 27 striker cuz he didnt perform good enough and trained pretty slow.
I would prefer to lend him out for the rest of the season to another club so he get experience and games. So once i get him - his maybe good?back

Just as in IRL football u can only borrow a certain limit of players per season. And you decide for how long.. weeks/months or the whole season. Future release fee or simply get him back when the time has passed.

Another idea would be that every team has a youth team where u can send your players to gain experience.

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If this idea gets included it would be nice the team that lends the player gets a few tokens

Yes ofc they get something for it.
Just as in real football. It's not often a club lend out a player for free.

Would this allow people to tank and loan thus farming tokens? (Just read it quick.)

Don't know what tank stands for. And i can't farm tokens... i buy mine.
What has that to do with this? :)

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Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson

Don't know what tank stands for. And i can't farm tokens... i buy mine.
What has that to do with this? :)

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Tanking is when you put an illegal formation with all your players in the wrong position so that you lose matches and don't get promoted. Buffs Mad was making the point that if you could loan players for tokens then people might choose to tank and loan out their best players for a season and in doing so effectively farm tokens.

Oh I see.
But what person in its right mind would want to tank and not get promoted?
Isn't the goal with this game to win, or atleast getting promoted? I go for win in everything i participate in.

And if someone do that for 5 tokens it's just sad :)

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Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson

Oh I see.
But what person in its right mind would want to tank and not get promoted?
Isn't the goal with this game to win, or atleast getting promoted? I go for win in everything i participate in.

And if someone do that for 5 tokens it's just sad :)

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For non-token buyers it is often hard to be competitive if you have several token buyers in your league. Many people in this situation choose to tank so that they have an extra season to train and improve their squad before going up. Personally I don't see the point, as I can't see it necessarily being any easier the next season, but I guess it works for some people.

In putting together a suggestion its important to be aware of potential exploits or that exploits are not present because ppl will take advantage if its there. I'm not even sure it is an exploit....just raising the question. ;)

Tbh I think its just easier to buy short term. But I wouldn't be opposed to it as long as it couldn't be taken advantage of.

I don't know how it is for non token buyers since i fix what i need.

First of all I find it very unfair that token buyers like myself get such a big advantage compared to those who doesn't buy.
It shouldn't be a matter of real money - even if it's not big amounts we talk about.

But the aim should be the same for everybody - win win win, or as most little (advance)

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Originally Posted by Buffs Mad

In putting together a suggestion its important to be aware of potential exploits or that exploits are not present because ppl will take advantage if its there. I'm not even sure it is an exploit....just raising the question. ;)

Tbh I think its just easier to buy short term. But I wouldn't be opposed to it as long as it couldn't be taken advantage of.

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To be honest, it would be a small amount of tokens they could earn from that compared to some of the offers that some people use.

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Originally Posted by John Naish

To be honest, it would be a small amount of tokens they could earn from that compared to some of the offers that some people use.

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But those offers are there for all, loan tokens would be additional. I'm not even sure how gifting works in this game or how much its limited so I can't comment either on whether additional teams could be used to take advantage of this.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue for or against just flagging it up because sometimes even the smallest advantage can change behaviour