Suggestion - Steps to have a better Association and League Competitions

Hi guys, I'll share with you a set of ideas I had to make the game better and more equal for all:

1 - On Associations, do not allow the use of players that were assigned after Associations Draw;

2 - The draw of Associations, should consider the % average of 44 best players of Association if the Asso has 4 managers, 55 best players if Asso has 5 managers and 66 best players if Asso has 6 managers);

3 - Do not allow the use of greens, reds and blue packs for loaned players outside the Associations Tournaments (or you could simply force the end of the loan after the tournament and block the loan outside tournament day). And keep the limit of 5 greens for a team /per day during Association tournament;

4 - Everyteam should lost 20% on the begining of all seasons, no matter the position the team ended last season, everyteam would have the same treatment. This would stop the abuse of tanking to build a strong squad.

5 - After the end of THIS current season, Nordeus should filter all teams tha are over 120% that repeated level. All these teams above 120% should lost (just at the next season reset) 20% more for each time that repeated level after reaching 120. So it would work like that: A team that is 185%, and repeated level 3 times, he would lose 20% for the normal reset that would affect everybody from now on, + 60% because repeated level 3 times after reaching 120%. So this team would be 185 - 20 - 60 = 105. This would probably put everybody at the same level again.

6 - Nordeus should not allow Negociations between managers that has any inviting relation. This would stop people transferring money and tokens from their fake accounts to their main accounts.

7 - Nordeus should revise the in game mechanic, because there are managers training only two attributes of their players (condition and strenght for example) to more than 500% and leaving all the rest on 1... and they are winning against better teams in quality. This discourages those who actually train the teams, as it seems pointless to train the squad correctly.


I think that this group of ideas could get the game back to the put the game back on the axes.

I just would like to add one more:

- END with this draw system that puts players from different levels on Cup and Champions League / SuperLeague. This is annoying!

Or the game itself should consider just the % to make the draws. Like Associations.

I say cancel the burden of association tournaments and give the tokens to managers according to their position in their League

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

I say cancel the burden of association tournaments and give the tokens to managers according to their position in their League

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The Associations is a nice part of the game. The only problem is that people don't like to play in a fair way.

If you end with Associations ok, it will reduce the problems, but all the rest will be there... teams repeating again and again to build invencible squads.

I suggested a group of ideas that if they implemment them together, we will have a more fair game for Associations and for all competitions.

good ideas

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Originally Posted by brunoctc1983

The Associations is a nice part of the game. The only problem is that people don't like to play in a fair way.

If you end with Associations ok, it will reduce the problems, but all the rest will be there... teams repeating again and again to build invencible squads.

I suggested a group of ideas that if they implemment them together, we will have a more fair game for Associations and for all competitions.

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I am in Platinum division earning 100 tokens every month and I don't like it ... I hate playing 4 games on weekends ... too much stress ... Its my opinion

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

I am in Platinum division earning 100 tokens every month and I don't like it ... I hate playing 4 games on weekends ... too much stress ... Its my opinion

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So all you need to do is to get out of Association hahaha :D

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Originally Posted by brunoctc1983

Hi guys, I'll share with you a set of ideas I had to make the game better and more equal for all:

1 - On Associations, do not allow the use of players that were assigned after Associations Draw;

2 - The draw of Associations, should consider the % average of 44 best players of Association if the Asso has 4 managers, 55 best players if Asso has 5 managers and 66 best players if Asso has 6 managers);

3 - Do not allow the use of greens, reds and blue packs for loaned players outside the Associations Tournaments (or you could simply force the end of the loan after the tournament and block the loan outside tournament day). And keep the limit of 5 greens for a team /per day during Association tournament;

4 - Everyteam should lost 20% on the begining of all seasons, no matter the position the team ended last season, everyteam would have the same treatment. This would stop the abuse of tanking to build a strong squad.

5 - After the end of THIS current season, Nordeus should filter all teams tha are over 120% that repeated level. All these teams above 120% should lost (just at the next season reset) 20% more for each time that repeated level after reaching 120. So it would work like that: A team that is 185%, and repeated level 3 times, he would lose 20% for the normal reset that would affect everybody from now on, + 60% because repeated level 3 times after reaching 120%. So this team would be 185 - 20 - 60 = 105. This would probably put everybody at the same level again.

6 - Nordeus should not allow Negociations between managers that has any inviting relation. This would stop people transferring money and tokens from their fake accounts to their main accounts.

7 - Nordeus should revise the in game mechanic, because there are managers training only two attributes of their players (condition and strenght for example) to more than 500% and leaving all the rest on 1... and they are winning against better teams in quality. This discourages those who actually train the teams, as it seems pointless to train the squad correctly.


I think that this group of ideas could get the game back to the put the game back on the axes.

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You are giving interesting responses to a problem that should be solved much more easily. I strongly disagree with entries 4 and 5: tanking was never an issue when the assos did not exist. I do not understand what you are refering to in entry 6: I cannot buy or sell players to/from my asso mates. For me, entry 7 is at this stage a fantasy: I have never ever lost an important game against a 5 star-team. Nor did I see a team like that win a major title against better ones. If indeed training only 2 habilities of players make them unstoppable, this has to do with a major fault in the game engine, not with cheating: if I was sure it worked, I would do it immediately! But again, I know the problem exists when I face it, which has not been the case so far.

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Originally Posted by brunoctc1983

So all you need to do is to get out of Association hahaha :D

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Once they start giving generous rewards of tokens for managers according to their position I will ... until then I have to stay

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

Once they start giving generous rewards of tokens for managers according to their position I will ... until then I have to stay

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Maybe we can add this suggestion on mine:

- Cut all the Associations tokens rewards on 50% and distribute them on other regular competitions (Specially on League)

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Originally Posted by gizzmo

You are giving interesting responses to a problem that should be solved much more easily. I strongly disagree with entries 4 and 5: tanking was never an issue when the assos did not exist. I do not understand what you are refering to in entry 6: I cannot buy or sell players to/from my asso mates. For me, entry 7 is at this stage a fantasy: I have never ever lost an important game against a 5 star-team. Nor did I see a team like that win a major title against better ones. If indeed training only 2 habilities of players make them unstoppable, this has to do with a major fault in the game engine, not with cheating: if I was sure it worked, I would do it immediately! But again, I know the problem exists when I face it, which has not been the case so far.

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Gizzmo, the 4th and 5th would be to stop the abuse of tanking. People could still have a break, entering everyday just to watch videos and collect tokens, but nobody would be able to abuse of repeat level to keep the % of their teams. The 5th would be an one time filter (on next season starts for example), just to level everybody again, because there are teams with more than 160% of strenght due to repeating level over and over...and this 5th would only affect teams that repeated level after reach 120% of quality.

6th...when you invite someone via Facebook, and that person enter on the game through this Facebook invitation, his/her account will be at the same server as you (to negotiate players, we need to be at the same server!) ... So it's easy to see that there are a lot of people that creates fake facebook accounts to transfer tokens and money between two accounts.

The 7th, maybe you didn't face Vietnamese teams on Associations yet. I saw on Facegroup groups, Good Associations losing matches for weaker associations (most of them Vietnamese) that have this kind of player I mentioned. If you look on Facebook groups, you will understand what I'm talking about. Players with 1200% of condition and strength and all other attributes on 1% winning matches easily.

Let me know if my explanation was better now.

Please read the first post and the first page additions.

I sent them all to Nordeus support, but we need people supporting ideas if we want to see them implemented.

If there is any suggestion that I made and you don't understand why, just let me know. Then I'll try to explain better.

All the suggestions I gave are for a fairer game for everybody.

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Originally Posted by brunoctc1983

6th...when you invite someone via Facebook, and that person enter on the game through this Facebook invitation, his/her account will be at the same server as you (to negotiate players, we need to be at the same server!) ... So it's easy to see that there are a lot of people that creates fake facebook accounts to transfer tokens and money between two accounts.

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Thanks for your reply. About entry 6: two of my asso members joined us via Facebook. They are on my server. But still, I cannot buy or sell players to them, even the ones eligible to nego rules (5 stars close to 6).
About entry 7, I did not say it does not exist. But is this a problem only occuring during asso games or is it general ? IMO, anything can happen in asso games. Perfect counter formations do not work anymore. And crazy results are everywhere: yesterday I lost 0-5 (my first loss of the season) in asso against a team with same quality and I was playing the perfect counter. On second leg, same teams, same tactics, I won 5-1 ! Just silly.

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Originally Posted by gizzmo

Thanks for your reply. About entry 6: two of my asso members joined us via Facebook. They are on my server. But still, I cannot buy or sell players to them, even the ones eligible to nego rules (5 stars close to 6).
About entry 7, I did not say it does not exist. But is this a problem only occuring during asso games or is it general ? IMO, anything can happen in asso games. Perfect counter formations do not work anymore. And crazy results are everywhere: yesterday I lost 0-5 (my first loss of the season) in asso against a team with same quality and I was playing the perfect counter. On second leg, same teams, same tactics, I won 5-1 ! Just silly.

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The Negotiations for invited accounts:
- You should click on your friend via friends list, not inside Association;
- Managers need to be a maximum of 4 levels of difference (level 8 19% will appear 39 for lvl 7, 59 for lvl 6, 79 for lvl 5 and 99 for lvl 4);
- But I know that there was a bug recently that some managers were not able to make offers using android, only using PC version, but I think it's already solved.

About the 7th:
- In Association it's happening hehehe. Not sure about the results in regular season matches. I remember that the post I saw on facebook, the player profile was V V V V V V, but I don't remember the titles.

As I mentioned elsewhere, assoc oriented team parking issue on leagues could be solved as follows,

*Promoted? welcome to assoc. not promoted? no assoc.

*Mutant players issue can be fixed easily by capping individual skill sets based on overall percentage so user is forced to train many skills altogether.

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Originally Posted by DenizNuker

As I mentioned elsewhere, assoc oriented team parking issue on leagues could be solved as follows,

*Promoted? welcome to assoc. not promoted? no assoc.

*Mutant players issue can be fixed easily by capping individual skill sets based on overall percentage so user is forced to train many skills altogether.

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I don't think this would solve everything.

The "parking teams" was already there before associations. The number of parking teams really increased a lot after Associations, but this is not the main problem.

We need a solution that brings equality for all players in the game, and this need to start in League (the main competition).

The list I proposed, aims to solve a lot of problems we have in the game, like:

- Parking Teams
- Abuse of fake accounts inside Associations
- Abuse of rests inside Associations
- Managers that transfer tokens between invited accounts (20 each negociation)
- Problems in players attributes (managers training only strength and speed for example, and leaving all the rest 1% and achieving good results is ridiculous)
- Inequalities of levels in draws of Cup, Champions League and Super League (it's very annoying...you work hard to build a good squad and from this day foward you will probably be the ONLY ONE of your level in CUP/CL/SL)

Thank you very much








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