Fix the League Draw because it is kind of UNFAIR.

The current league draw categorize teams according the power of their players during the first one-two days of every new season.


Some teams manipulate the draw by selling their strong players at the end of the season and buy new ones at the third day in order to manipulate the draw and increase their chances to win a trophy that they might not deserve ( I don't know what fellow users on this forum have suggested to stop such manipulation ...)

What I am going to discuss also is another aspect of the UNFAIR LEAGUE DRAW.


The actual categorization put weak teams ( 2-3 stars ) together and medium teams ( 4-5 * ) together and strong teams ( 5-6*) together and tankers or very powerful teams together ( 7*-8* ) ...

My question : is it fair that a team with let's say 5 * (80-95%) win a league trophy, while a strong team in same level but in another league with power (105-110% ) don't win it and get a second or third position ? in other words, how come a system favor a team who doesn't train as a hard as another one or doesn't buy good players over a team who do what's expected from any manager in this game to do ??


I have no idea right now about how to IMPROVE the league draw and make it more fair .... but I hope some of the guys here invent a way to improve it and end such unjust system because this season my team ( I am NOT a tanker) with 125 % team is third in league position behind 115% and 118 % teams while some of my friends who are in the same level 33 with 105 % team maximum are winning the league trophy of other divisions .... is this fair ?

Integral draw (all teams can be drawn together, ex. 30% can be drawn with 160%) for the League is the solution

I play since June 2016 and saw two types of league draws, both unfair:
- friend-based one (it would be better not to accept friendships of strong people while friending with lower people)
- quality-based one (for the reasons you underlined)

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Originally Posted by Javert89

Integral draw (all teams can be drawn together, ex. 30% can be drawn with 160%) for the League is the solution

I play since June 2016 and saw two types of league draws, both unfair:
- friend-based one (it would be better not to accept friendships of strong people while friending with lower people)
- quality-based one (for the reasons you underlined)

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Here's an idea that is close to fairness ....

It is based on categorizing teams according to their ACHIEVEMENT in the previous season

All league winners of same level must be divided equally on all league divisions in the next season
All runner up of same level should be distributed on all league divisions in the next season

Same goes to the fourth , fifth , six , seventh, and eighth position

Rotation among teams is advised to avoid seeing same teams competing in same league division each season which become boring

- Position 9 to 14 next season should be the teams who failed to promote this season ( they were one level above )

four of my friends won the league title whose teams are much lower than mine , while i was second in my division ....



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I didn't invest hundreds of rests and tokens and a lot of time on training my players to 130% to see much weaker friendly teams win a league trophy and me not .... this game programming sucks and unfair

I don't want to sound rude,but instead of writing tonnes of bs,you should've done something about your draws ;)

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Originally Posted by madflo19

i don't want to sound rude,but instead of writing tonnes of bs,you should've done something about your draws ;)

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not rude at all , managers can control the training , the formation, and the tactics but do they control the results (draw - lose ) or the number of goals ?

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WHAT'S STRANGE , WHY ALL THE DISAPPOINTING RESULTS NOT HAPPEN TO MY WEAKER OPPONENT BVB FOR EX ? ::D

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

not rude at all , managers can control the training , the formation, and the tactics but they control the results (draw - lose ) ?
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WHAT'S STRANGE , WHY ALL THE DISAPPOINTING RESULTS NOT HAPPEN TO MY WEAKER OPPONENT BVB FOR EX ? ::D

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No,you can't control the result,but you can control the draws (manipulate)

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Originally Posted by madflo19

No,you can't control the result,but you can control the draws (manipulate)

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So you are suggesting the manipulation of the draw... let me guess by selling my fourteen 130% players and buying another fourteen 3 stars players and then at the third day of the new season I buy another fourteen players at 85 % and above train then again .... "

In another words, you want me to waste all the time i spent to improve my players and the hundreds of rests and tokens I spent ( more than 1500 ) just to get a better chance to win the triple crown and If I don't do that and I kept my 130% players , my chances to win the triple crown next season are going to be just like ****ty season.

What an encouraging system by Nordeus ! Damn it, if that's what Nordeus indirectly wants me to do , I would prefer to uninstall this game rather than cheating an engine made by unfair programmers ...

No,you don’t have to sell your 14 130%.....but anyway,happy moaning.

You could always tank a season, and then win the treble 2 seasons later like I just have!
No draw manipulation, no money spent, no tokens spent, no rest packs spent.
Just one little, itty bitty season tanking.

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Originally Posted by madflo19

No,you don’t have to sell your 14 130%.....but anyway,happy moaning.

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Didn't you read my first comment ?? Ain't clear to you that I DON'T WANT to manipulate ?

If you came ONLY to RE-suggest the MANIPULATION THE DRAW and nothing else, you should be another cheater who win what he doesn't necessarily deserve.

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

Didn't you read my first comment ?? Ain't clear to you that I DON'T WANT to manipulate ?

If you came ONLY to RE-suggest the MANIPULATION THE DRAW and nothing else, you should be another cheater who win what he doesn't necessarily deserve.

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I win what i deserve,you win what you deserve...
I am not stupid to train my players to 130% just to be placed in a +1 lvl champions league &cup

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Originally Posted by Altiplano

You could always tank a season, and then win the treble 2 seasons later like I just have!
No draw manipulation, no money spent, no tokens spent, no rest packs spent.
Just one little, itty bitty season tanking.

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Season 33 and level 33 ... I like real competition not easy victories... won many treble WITHOUT TANKING ... I don't spend real money on a stupid VIRTUAL game that DOESN'T give me control over the results of games , nor number of goals ... the thousands of rests or tokens I used this season I get for free ...
I am not like those who show off - I don't post my achievements like many others do here or on FB ....

I was just raising a complain because I had an unfair treatment by the engine comparing to my fellow managers in same league HOPING that developers would listen and make the draw more fair..

If that won't happen, and probably it won't coz dev are deaf , I will continue to fight this unfair categorizing system without tanking until I reach a point where I will be forced to relegate for having below 8th position.

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

Season 33 and level 33 ... I like real competition not easy victories... won many treble WITHOUT TANKING ... I don't spend real money on a stupid VIRTUAL game that DOESN'T give me control over the results of games , nor number of goals ... the thousands of rests or tokens I used this season I get for free ...
I am not like those who show off - I don't post my achievements like many others do here or on FB ....

I was just raising a complain because I had an unfair treatment by the engine comparing to my fellow managers in same league HOPING that developers would listen and make the draw more fair..

If that won't happen, and probably it won't coz dev are deaf , I will continue to fight this unfair categorizing system without tanking until I reach a point where I will be forced to relegate for having below 8th position.

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And there you have it. You are at that point on the endless ladder where you are always going to be punished for having a strong squad because the game engine needs to keep filing down the league structure towards the point at the top of your server.
So your options for avoiding punishment are A: manipulate the draw. B: tanking.
I'm in the same situation so I took the tanking option 2 seasons ago because I know from reading posts here in the forum that in another 8 to 10 seasons ( level 40ish) even 14th position in the league may not be enough to avoid levelling up.
I've said before I get the feeling that Nordeus has little to no interest in players who have been in the game for more than 2 years and that the easy answer to our complaints is start another team or go away. And whist that attitude continues nothing will ever be done to rebalance the draws at higher levels within the servers. So we each have to find our own manner in which to play the game.
I admire your no tanking, no manipulating principals, but if they don't make you happy with your draws or results......? Why bother? Nothing is going to change.

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And there you have it. You are at that point on the endless ladder

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that is a good point .
Any post that leads to conflict and not in one step above in the ladder, gonna be moderate :o

* If you have better ideas about games features, you can write them in Suggestions section or continue here.
If you believe that a manager in your competitions is cheating, you can send a report .

this has become a usual proposition.i have a problem with it.you have.and i believe those who do it arent proud of themselves for winning while cheating...
well done guys you are smart we are not.
nordeus hear the calls please...i cant see the profit from such a thing.

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

the thousands of rests or tokens I used this season I get for free ...
I am not like those who show off - I don't post my achievements like many others do here or on FB ....

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Thousands of greens and tokens you got for free this season... yeah, right !
And even if this was true: how dare you talking of fairness as you would be the only one the whole game!