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Hi guys,
We almost finish the 3rd IC now....
Why not change that team into the Association games.. so that tanking becomes history! LOL
That tanking breaks the games specially the normal competion.. because the tankers only put there good team in the weekend time and break the league, cup en ChampL games
So if you do effort your team for the association can become strong, not just sitting and waiting (tanking)...
Just an idea Nordeus, hope you can fix the tanking anyway...
Thanks
i think the biggest problem is manipulation.so it should be taken care of first.
then comes tanking...
Why is manipulation the biggest problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
Or what kind of manipulation are you talking about;
manipulation of league draw with the 14 players...
Tanking a bigger problem imo. Just look at those 150%+ teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
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I don't think manipulating the league draw is a problem,i mean,for who will be this a problem?for the bot/abandoned teams(we all know that if you manipulate the league draw,you'll play against abandoned teams)i have never seen an abandoned team complaining about this [emoji14]
The only problem i can see with this,is that if u do manipulate ,you'll winn many trebles (well,some can't win even if they manipulate)and this doesn't like to some people even if they are not affected by this.
But if you finish the season with a team quality of ~120% next season is more likely to have some tankers of ~130%-150% quality(in a league with most of the managers active)
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Madflo is right. Honestly at this point I do not blame tankers (casual ones not association jerks) or manipulation. If you play the game ''as intended'' it will still be unfair and illogical since you will play higher level. You still will have the same teams and the results will only slightly differ.
i dont support tanking.i haven't tried it yet.
i say this watching tanking from a realistic view.
it sounds more real to me a team prepare 1 or 2 seasons and have a plan to win the league in 2 or 3 seasons,than sell players to draw against easier league.
and i say this being a manipulator.....
but both are serious problems in top eleven's realism.
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and at higher leagues i've played there arent more than 1 or 2 bot or abandoned teams...
On top of my head I think there is no real solution without drastically changing the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
thats for sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by KenoticFC
Only applicable solution, is a effort=reward... =promotion, allow train the 7*+ look that Im a tanker, and myself I suggest limitations, despite know that the game do the comp's per level... but as a winner of 13 consecutive level CLs and... 4 Super leagues, I can say that right now, the game punishes you one single level... so, yes, I played 5 of the 6 SL's I won vs +1 levels, but once you tank 2 seasons is easy stay at same level of a +1Lv team and overcome all of them.... cuz Im near 140% right now.... so, this covers the -1lv disadvantadge....Quote:
Originally Posted by KenoticFC
it might be more simple.
fast thinking.why not put a limit in % the league (maybe 120%).and if you want to exceed that just pay an amount of tokens to unlock a new level(maybe 140%).
there are many solutions ,everyone of us can think one i'm sure.the thing is sth has to change
Eish! This is quite extreme,,just imagine...look at it from a decent player's point of view,,,you use your hard earned tokens to buy players,then use ur hard earned packs to train them only to find your player can't gain another star because someone else had an idea of imposing a "tax" like mechanism on levels, not fair imo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
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will you think twice before tanking again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Migadini
120% isn't a tanking type %. You are not just penalizing tankers. I hate tanking. Have never done it. But the remedy you suggest doesn't work fairly imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
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as i said it was fast thinking.so many ideas...Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerniceguy
Fair enough I've suggested things in the past as remedies. Some of my suggestions turned out to not really be workable also. Ones I still believe in;Quote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
Remove asso top 100. Reduce asso tokens and place on LG top 8. Limit tanking to 1 season in 10 (ie. If you weren't deducted 20% one season you will the following 9).
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Tanking aint the problem Tanking is a choice.
The only problem in my opinion is :THE DRAW SYSTEM which takes the average of the first 14 players not the average of the total number of players in a squad.
Disagree. Imagine tanker 1st xi 160% with 17 additional 1% players. If anything should go other way and draw based on 1st xi only. Disagree with the tanking is a choice. It's a choice which is damaging the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
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The problem you've stated is directly related to the draw system not to tanking and it could be simply solved by a applying a new rule :Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerniceguy
Prohibiting the renewal of contracts of players below X % .
eg. Top 11 sends msg : you can't renew the contract of players below 65- or 70 or 75 % players .... devs can decide the percentage.
problem solved.
I have never tanked, so i expect my young players to grow past 120 % when i train them with my packs,,, what you suggesting punishes not only the minority tankers but also the majority of honest players...Quote:
Originally Posted by Doors FC
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Except we get players frim academy below these %,,fr example today i got 18yr olds at 28% and 68% respectuveky, so how does this help?Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using TapatalkQuote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
This free tokens 2 star academy bull**** player should also stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Migadini
Nooooooo.Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
Need him for manipulating the draw. Lol.
Let battle commence. Tankers and manipulators v Everyone else!
Lol. It's not a battle. I've begrudgingly used manipulate draw a little purely to get away from tankers. We could really do with a redesign of the league system from scratch. I don't want this to turn into a 2 camp argument. I just want some good constructive debate and suggestions to improve our beloved game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altiplano
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debate and good arguments between two different viewpoints away from sarcasm and bull**** talks is always constructive.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerniceguy
do you actually think we'd be heard?whatever the idea...they dont care...