FAs penalization

As we can understand that if a asso from the top that 100 have 6 new members with 0 points or has sold the asso, or is using multi accounts I'm gonna ask for a penalization of 2000 points for the following assos;

1-sparta xxx
5- LÇ
7- special forces
11- inhu united
35-arka sokaklar
39-kardus kamprett
43-fizruk's
47-hh thanh chem
64-t.u.r.a.n.
66-hasandagi spor
73-siberians
77-n.a.u.t.i.c.a
95-red army
99-ehl-i keyf



Here Ive just mentioned the assos with x6 0 points, despite that some asso' have a single member with few points.
This should be considered as a irregular movement regarding this particular comp' as the only way to replace the 6 teams entirely is a clear manipulation that in a high sense breakes the rules.

Of course right now the FAs are a big headache as are absolutely broken and a total joke inside the game, thats why I asked to remove the top 10 rewards at least.

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Originally Posted by khris

As we can understand that if a asso from the top that 100 have 6 new members with 0 points or has sold the asso, or is using multi accounts I'm gonna ask for a penalization of 2000 points for the following assos;

1-sparta xxx
5- LÇ
7- special forces
11- inhu united
35-arka sokaklar
39-kardus kamprett
43-fizruk's
47-hh thanh chem
64-t.u.r.a.n.
66-hasandagi spor
73-siberians
77-n.a.u.t.i.c.a
95-red army
99-ehl-i keyf



Here Ive just mentioned the assos with x6 0 points, despite that some asso' have a single member with few points.
This should be considered as a irregular movement regarding this particular comp' as the only way to replace the 6 teams entirely is a clear manipulation that in a high sense breakes the rules.

Of course right now the FAs are a big headache as are absolutely broken and a total joke inside the game, thats why I asked to remove the top 10 rewards at least.

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I agree they are a very bad advert for the game and a long time embarrassment to nordeus.

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another option is a -250 points if someone leave the asso... can do the effect too... but the manipulation still been there actually if the draws do not consider the best 11 for the 1vs1's..

remove the top100 list
Simple


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another option is a -250 points if someone leave the asso..

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made a suggestion about this
join another asso group is the only way to play vs a team from different lv as equal.
As I made a suggestion (to play vs friends equally on not by lv) about this but nothing happens, I don't agree.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

remove the top100 list
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made a suggestion about this
join another asso group is the only way to play vs a team from different lv as equal.
As I made a suggestion (to play vs friends equally on not by lv) about this but nothing happens, I don't agree.

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if this is done, the game will lose its meaning for many managers, it will not be interesting to compete with bots in the league and this will not fix it in any way. in general, I think then competition in associations will become meaningless on a par with the league. I'm very curious why the haters of the associations have settled here on the forum - because you can not even get into platinum?



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Originally Posted by khris

As we can understand that if a asso from the top that 100 have 6 new members with 0 points or has sold the asso, or is using multi accounts I'm gonna ask for a penalization of 2000 points for the following assos;

1-sparta xxx
5- LÇ
7- special forces
11- inhu united
35-arka sokaklar
39-kardus kamprett
43-fizruk's
47-hh thanh chem
64-t.u.r.a.n.
66-hasandagi spor
73-siberians
77-n.a.u.t.i.c.a
95-red army
99-ehl-i keyf



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strange selection))))) the impression is that these are your offenders, or else it's unclear why you appointed one and the others missed ... and yes - the output of one of the associations is used to zero points after the season - do you want to fine for it? it's funny ...


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Originally Posted by lalexrus

strange selection))))) the impression is that these are your offenders, or else it's unclear why you appointed one and the others missed ... and yes - the output of one of the associations is used to zero points after the season - do you want to fine for it? it's funny ...


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Then this means that you've not understood anything.

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Originally Posted by khris

Then this means that you've not understood anything.

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it means that you are a bad player - otherwise you would list the associations competently, and not just those who for some reason did not please you. what is your benefit in such proposals except how to get yourself into top100 without tsilsi?


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Originally Posted by lalexrus

it means that you are a bad player - otherwise you would list the associations competently, and not just those who for some reason did not please you. what is your benefit in such proposals except how to get yourself into top100 without tsilsi?


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You wanna mean bad person, not bad player.

You've not understood that I pointed those who have 6 members with 0 points because in terms of rules these can be punished, as is a clear evidence of a intentional movement. As these are associations entirely changed.
Is not my benefit nor your one, is a, etichal question? is the end this joke that exists in this ranking? do you wanna discuss a new religion with me? is not my problem if you're pleased looking that aberration and you wanna shut up.

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Originally Posted by khris

You wanna mean bad person, not bad player.

You've not understood that I pointed those who have 6 members with 0 points because in terms of rules these can be punished, as is a clear evidence of a intentional movement. As these are associations entirely changed.
Is not my benefit nor your one, is a, etichal question? is the end this joke that exists in this ranking? do you wanna discuss a new religion with me? is not my problem if you're pleased looking that aberration and you wanna shut up.

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then be kind enough to say what exactly changed in the top1 association? that's it, except points - nothing. or look top10 - I was too lazy to ask the guys to come out and go on this Monday, and so we usually do this in order to know which manager played the best in the season and encourage him with a monthly card




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Originally Posted by lalexrus

then be kind enough to say what exactly changed in the top1 association? that's it, except points - nothing. or look top10 - I was too lazy to ask the guys to come out and go on this Monday, and so we usually do this in order to know which manager played the best in the season and encourage him with a monthly card




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The wole group had to leave to have 0 points x6, this happenned. But reading you I guess that from your viewpoint " the good players" are all those who are in the top 100 with 1* teams awaiting for manipulate the draws.

I point the irregular activity that involves the multi accounts inside these groups, try to understand this. Is not a normal activity when a "whole association with 1550 points change all the members, people don't change a whole asso for the face.
We know well about all the issues that the game had related with the multi accounts, upselling and many other stuffs.
Then, we have a black market that has been increasing due that, still but, a sanction, or something similar, we know very well that is not the solution. But understand that a asso "should involve 6 teams, not 60, I think is something elemental." is like have 5 accounts to benefit 1.

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Originally Posted by khris

The wole group had to leave to have 0 points x6, this happenned. But reading you I guess that from your viewpoint " the good players" are all those who are in the top 100 with 1* teams awaiting for manipulate the draws.

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Before draw - 1-2 teams 1-3 * 4-5 teams 6-7-8 *. after draw 6 teams 5-6-7-8* do not confuse with moving 1 * to the main lineup - this does not affect the choice of the opponent's association (only for the choice of pair in the already selected two associations). 1-2 teams after draw buy the players either on the teams of friends or at the auction (or if it is necessary - by buying players who are offering to buy a scout).


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A more simple solution is to have a secondary team for asso games.
Like the IC national team.

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Originally Posted by lalexrus

then be kind enough to say what exactly changed in the top1 association? that's it, except points - nothing. or look top10 - I was too lazy to ask the guys to come out and go on this Monday, and so we usually do this in order to know which manager played the best in the season and encourage him with a monthly card




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You sir are part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by John Grant

You sir are part of the problem.

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Ok, let me be the problem, suggest a solution, and do not complain.


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Sir Laxerus, an advice to you, so you do not have to lazy and kick everyone from your association just make a screen shot before the season so you can see who your best is...

wow
that's a genius idea.
Now, no one is obliged to leave and come back to his association :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by maloukees

Sir Laxerus, an advice to you, so you do not have to lazy and kick everyone from your association just make a screen shot before the season so you can see who your best is...

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you have some kind of strange logic, you are for making life difficult for everyone absolutely and not solve the problem. what's the use of a fine of 100-200 tokens per entry / exit? you are sure that the associations that each draw put in several thousand tokens (and there are such even in the top ten top100) will not find extra 600-1200 tokens for their actions? but the whole point is that you do not even have to go out - you have to sell all the players above 1-3 for 2-3 teams, and the understatement for a simpler draw is ready (and after the draw to buy again), and spit on your fines - those who do so does and so spend a huge amount of tokens, pay will be ordinary managers who already suffer from frauds with a rating of



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Funny how ppl who exploit will trash any ideas whatsoever just to protect the status quo. I'm all up for new ideas even if it means I have to adapt how I play. Makes things interesting at least.

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See asso on pic tomorrow - best example about rating manipulation https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9834c768fa.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8acbd169a3.png
Asso 4* but 3 teams 1-2* and 3 teams 5+*
this can not be corrected except for the closing of negotiations and auction for the days of matches of associations (a penalty for entering the association does not solve the problem completely)


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Originally Posted by rogerniceguy

Funny how ppl who exploit will trash any ideas whatsoever just to protect the status quo. I'm all up for new ideas even if it means I have to adapt how I play. Makes things interesting at least.

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it's funny that when you come up with a solution to a question you do not even know (or do not want to mention) how the game works and how managers use it. unfortunately in Nordeus apparently the approach to the question is exactly the same - we will protect donators who also use the flaws of the game, which Nordeus does not know about or simply does not want to correct for some reason. find the answer to the question why the upseiling is not yet closed, the reasons you will find are 100500, but all of them can not withstand any criticism. and we would be very happy about it :)



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@lalexrus, in your pic example, those 3 1* teams are old but in many asso groups they created new google accounts this weekend, to fill an asso of 3 other strong members.
That's why nordeus has 150 M' accounts and PES has 100 K' .
That's a not direct profit ;)

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Originally Posted by Ποσιδονας

@lalexrus, in your pic example, those 3 1* teams are old but in many asso groups they created new google accounts this weekend, to fill an asso of 3 other strong members.
That's why nordeus has 150 M' accounts and PES has 100 K' .
That's a not direct profit ;)

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it's not that they created 1 million accounts, but that after draw they can buy 5+* players at the auction. if such an opportunity is not, then the sense of a one-day team will not be created



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How many of those millions fake TE accounts created from associations ?
Not this weekend, from older times
droping quality, loans, friendlies ...
I would say at least 50 ' M fake accounts created because of asso games the last two years.

i answer in division topic ))) sorry )