This game is a fraud and its practice is dishonest

[MARCO CAIA]

I do not care if they ban me from here or disqualify my team, I have had it now, for real, I can no longer support this game. They have built into it such defrauding systems that are now becoming so evident. Let's start with players, playstyles do not really work as they should they seem to be just a gimmick to make us pay more for tokens and resources to buy players with these playstyles. I have been checking closely the players' behavior and they do not seem to exhibit their play style. I will give you a very clear example, I have a GK that has a playstyle of sweeper keeper I NEVER see him do what the playstyle says I never see him coming out to meet a long ball, never see him coming out on crosses or corners.

Other players are the same I have a Striker that has a playstyle target man, first of all, I got him to have the following skills shooting 246% Finishing 256% Positioning 177% ( he plays out of position 80% of the time) Heading 185% with a playstyle of Target Man and at 140% of overall quality, this guy should score 2 -3 goal per match. Not even close, not only he is not a target man his teammates go to but he can't even hit the target and score enough.

He misses 90% of his shots on goal and in some matches 100% of them. Now, if the algorithms, which I think are the problem in this game, position the player in a different part of the field as opposed to where he ought to be he will not be a target for his teammates nor will he be in the right place to score.

If the computer makes the players play outside their position and playstyle then they will not play as they should. This I believe is intentional but I feel that somehow the system chooses teams to make them basically act this way so that the results are often negative. If the percentage algorithms are manipulated by changing the inward skills of the players it will not matter what skill % they have you will lose or win ( not as much as lose) at their will and not the true percentage of the skills, qualities, abilities, and playstyle the players have.

I have ample proof by now that they have for some reason flagged my team as they do many others to lose all meaningful games. Why? I do not know why. Before I thought it was because I was not spending enough but last season I tried an experiment, I spent a lot more than I ever did I brought my team to a quality % I never did before ( the final percentage was 140%) I encountered many weaker teams and ended up losing much more against them than I ever did, mind you though that I cannot ever beat teams of greater quality but I get beat a lot by them and lose a lot against weaker teams also.

I cannot remember when I won against a team that was 10% stronger than mine and yet I get beaten often by teams that are weaker and even more and some losses have been embarrassing. Now when the percentages of the win-loss ratio are so lopsided the problem is not chance percentages but it has to be purposeful manipulation of my team's results.

There is no other reason. Last season with a team of 140% I lost EVERY meaningful game. I lost the Cup Final to a team almost 10% weaker, I lost the Super Cup Final against a team 2% stronger than mine and Lost both by one goal scored in the last minutes of the game. Two finals same result with teams that I could have beaten and should have.

The percentages of playing TWO finals in a row and losing both are not very high, it's possible but improbable, and yet.

In the League I arrived second again of course the first-place team was so much higher in quality there was no possibility to beat it and win the league. Then this season not only they stuck me in a league where the teams are almost all higher quality and there are three that are basically so much higher that it's impossible to place in the first 4 and my team is 135% now.

However, as I said when they make you lose close games in the last minutes of the game, when your best players are prevented to score then the results are inevitably against you. You contact support, that's useless! Another example, I'm in the CL semifinal now and I face a team that is 142.2 % mine is 135.2% the difference is 7% the game if the % were reversed I have lost many times to teams even weaker than 7% less than mine, however, I was basically dominating the match, basically kicking their butts all over the field, I had 18 total shots on goal their goalie has 7 saves mine 2 they shot 6 times and I lost 2-0 so how do you explain all that?

I'll tell you how I can play 100 games like that and lose, I will be generous, 99% of the time so therefore they cannot come and tell me well SOMETIMES that happens. OK so if it happened sometimes I could accept their excuse, but when it happens 99% of the time then it's beyond chance. It's manipulation and purposefully targeting a specific team and manager.

I do not appreciate this. Let's move on, to the EVENTS. These also are a sham, scams to make us spend tokens and subsequently money of course, in order to receive crumbs as rewards. What is up with pitch patterns? Useless rewards really! At least Jerseys you can really use or sell, but pitch patterns are really useless.

First of all, there should be no reentry fees for these events. You play the event period even because in the end you will have to face teams you will never be able to beat unless they let you which is almost never, The waiting times to free plays are too long. The objectives for example in some events such as the PROVING GROUNDS are not reachable to get the master reward,

For example, in the Reds Reborn event, getting the master reward is not possible for all. Who has 4 playstyle MCs on their team? Not most. So right there, it's a scam to either favor who has them or to make one weak of mind to go purchase them, Well if you were to purchase even two mc's with playstyle it would cost you more than the master reward is worth. and you are still not guaranteed to get it because the other objectives are almost impossible to obtain unless they cause them to happen. In ALL the special events you go against teams that eventually unless you have a very high % team you cannot beat. All these are money-making schemes for Nordeus.

In the Unite cup twice this season, every time I got really close to winning a resource I lost and tied in order to push me to either spend tokens or wait 4 hours to try again. Teams I beat so easily 3-4 nil now I lose or tie right before I need a couple of points?

This is a fraud and it's not fair play. The Goal Rush and such events they used to start early in the season now they start them later so as to make it harder to finish even because if they prevent you from scoring then of course you will not get too far. In any situation, they give us very little and make our life in this game so difficult to actually have fun, enjoy it end even win something. In the end,

THIS GAME is designed to defraud many and for them to make millions which actually they are making, especially in the Indonesian market, as these seem not to mind spending a lot of money on this game.

LISTEN NORDEUS, I set my mind on a few things and that is it. Now you want to start charging us even more money for resources that should have been accessible for a long time. I will do what I have to and no longer try to spend money or waste time to try and win games that you will cause me to lose regardless of what I do.

I love the comments at the end of a game, don't you? We were well prepared but in the end, it was not enough. Really? So what would be enough? My team is all on 40%, 99% rest, and superb morale, what can one do more than that? If you still lose after all this then why train, and spend resources?

The other one, the team does better with you around. This they say when you do not attend a match and lose. Really? So if I attended I would have done better? Really? Do you mean I would have lost 1-0 instead of 2-0 and still lost? Is that better? Give us a break,

I know there are many, many managers that go through the same thing I go through and think the same way. We ought TO ALL QUIT THIS GAME and then see if you would change it when you lose a lot of players, but sadly there will always be the dummies and those who can afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a game.

I would be better off spending 500 dollars once and buying a Playstation and playing football on that one. At least if I lose it would only be my fault or if I win my credit. Nordeus should be ashamed of themselves for doing all this to us for their greed.

[vinim]

And you won't get any answers here, Marco. This forum is absurdly useless. See how many topics with complaints about the uneven level of play, the useless events with pathetic prizes, the absurd price of everything that sells in the game (100 reais for 3 players on fire in the boosta lab, BIG ****). It's no use, we need to find a fairer game, created by developers who want to profit without sucking or destroying the users of the game themselves. Go to hell, Nordeous.

They can keep purposely screwing with my team, maybe next season they'll put me in a league with 13 teams 40, 50% stronger than mine, forcing me to be the flashlight of the competition. Scoundrels, idiots, greedy devils

[MARCO CAIA]

I agree with you 100% it's really too bad because it could be, it is a very good game if it wasn't hijacked by greedy people. Wit a few major tweaks it could be fairer and better even now but you are correct, the only changes they will make is to make you pay more to get more. And then with zero guarantees. 9.99 dollars to train a player that next season will lose 20% of the skills you just paid for? In reality that training cost you $ 12.00. The player and youth academies are a useless expensive scam. Unaffordable really. It's just a shame it has to be this way, I wish I had the resources to create a game like this one the way it should be fairer for all, game owners and players

[MARCO CAIA]

I already lost my semifinal game in CL 2-1 at home but now I am about to get screwed at home again in the league I will let you know the outcome

[maloukees]

It sounds to me that you pay real money to the game or use also the loop holes to get extreme players your self....

Your striker is shooting 246% Finishing 256% Positioning 177% Heading 185% with a playstyle of Target Man and at 140% of overall quality,

How do you get him so high... spent many many greens on him... or is this because you use also the same things like the others

Then you complain that you hardly can win from better teams and lose from less teams.... maybe your tactic suck or your player are much less good trained then your opponent...

In other words.. STOP.. being a cry baby and start to be a better manager

[MARCO CAIA]

you have zero clue as to what is going on in this game do you? I train my players and use tactics that are in line with all the advice given on any and all Top Eleven strategies and tactics so I am sorry to tell you this game is not SIMPLY being a better manager. For your info you can look at my team's total stats since I started and I had some very good and fruitful seasons so don't give me the crap about being stop crying and being a better manager. I do the best I can, I get information my players are ALWAYS at 99% rest, my team is ALWAYS at 40% training bonus, my players are Always on superb morale, so I hate to burst the bubble you made in your mind about me, but my team no matter who it plays against is ALWAYS trained to the max and ready to the max. The formations, tactics and strategies I get from the advices I find right inside Top Eleven so it shows that you are just simply talking because you have a mouth and know NOTHING about me and my team. This is exactly why I complain, because if the game was purely based only on those facts I would win every game and every competition. I'm sorry to tell you but if you simply think that to win stuff in this game the only thing you need to do is be a better manager then do yourself a favor QUIT now. There is so much going on in this game behind what you actually see and perceive that if you have been playing since 2017 and still did not figure it out then good luck. By the way, did you read all my comments? Because I give you the break down on all that I stated to you in here but you still seem to like to just throw your opinion around like you know what I go through. Look I' m all for free speech, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. Good luck in being a better manager. Wake up!

[MARCO CAIA]

And you won't get any answers here, Marco. This forum is absurdly useless. See how many topics with complaints about the uneven level of play, the useless events with pathetic prizes, the absurd price of everything that sells in the game (100 reais for 3 players on fire in the boosta lab, BIG ****). It's no use, we need to find a fairer game, created by developers who want to profit without sucking or destroying the users of the game themselves. Go to hell, Nordeous.

They can keep purposely screwing with my team, maybe next season they'll put me in a league with 13 teams 40, 50% stronger than mine, forcing me to be the flashlight of the competition. Scoundrels, idiots, greedy devils

you believe this guy down here, poor soul he really thinks it's simply about being a good manager and having a good team. He needs to learn a lot about it.

[MARCO CAIA]

hey vinim I went and looked up this guy and guess what, he does not take his own advice, he's over there in his posts complaining about the same thing, these people are unbelievable. They better teach themselves rather than try to go criticize others for the same complaints they have, hypocrites!